Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Madness the 11th: BJ's like Dickey

[Silver91]

Okay, if Gose and d'Arnaud are both going, we better be getting at least Wheeler and maybe a guy like Fulmer, Valdespin or Vaughn back...

 

[Felstead]

Ya and teams regularly win without having elite catchers.
It's a great thing to have but how many teams in the league actually have a elite catcher?

Right.. But I want to be one of those teams with an elite catcher.

 

[Anthrax442]

joel sherman ‏@joelsherman1
been told in no pemutation is anthony goes part of the trade that would send dickey from #bluejays to #mets. But d'arnaud definitely is in
retweeted by richard griffin

tda

 

[weems]

and out of all those players you listed, only 2 aren't pitchers

Theres a good chance we take a position player with the top 10 pick.

Plus we have ALOT of toolsy position players at the real lower levels.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Even if this trade happens were still going to have talent in the farm. Sure its taken a bigtime hit but were still looking at Syndergaard, Sanchez, Osuna, Norris, DJ Davis, Smoral, Stroman, #10 overall pick, Tirado, Franklin Baretto. We prolly went from having a top 3 farm to now prolly in the #15-20 range (something similar to what the Leafs currently have).

It takes a big hit because all of a sudden, the upper levels are pretty much gutted and those guys are a long time away from making any sort of impact. You also lose some depth.

Just sayin', but if going pretty much all-in blows up in our faces, Jays won't be able to do much with being at their payroll limit and then having a little farm system to work with.

But I suppose a total disaster would have to happen for it to completely blow up in our faces. Gotta get Dickey with an extension though.

 

[calcal798]

So if the Dickey deal goes through that means we'll have acquired:

Maicer Izturis, Josh Johnson, Mark Buerhle, Jose Reyes, John Buck, Emilio Bonifacio, Melky Cabrera, RA Dickey and possibly more along with Dickey.

Wow!

All of that for giving up:

D'Arnaud, Escobar, Hechavaria, Nicolino, Marisknick, Mathis, Alvarez, and Desclafani.

I take that, without a question, you get a 1, 2 and 3 in terms of SP, lead off hitter, super sub, LF with good power, starting 2B, and a vet catcher.

What more could you ask for in terms of value back?

 

[Animal]

why can't it be jpa ++

 

[AndMat*]

why can't it be jpa ++

cuz jpa sucks.

 

[Jozay]

It better not be a D'Arnaud for Dickey deal. The Mets have to add more.

 

[Animal]

cuz jpa sucks.

maybe the mets don't know that

 

[Stats01]

All of that for giving up:

D'Arnaud, Escobar, Hechavaria, Nicolino, Marisknick, Mathis, Alvarez, and Desclafani.

I take that, without a question, you get a 1, 2 and 3 in terms of SP, lead off hitter, super sub, LF with good power, starting 2B, and a vet catcher.

What more could you ask for in terms of value back?

LOL That is unbelievable. Talk about bang for your buck.

 

[weems]

why can't it be jpa ++

Because JPA isnt all that good.
Ricciardi drafted the guy and now works in the Mets front office.

 

[theaub]

why can't it be jpa ++

The ++ in that trade would be Gose and Sanchez

 

[Anthrax442]

Is it going to be another 12 player deal?

 

[Animal]

i remember when we didn't want to trade drabek + snider to Kansas City for Greinke + Gordon

 

[BigFatCat999]

Last time the Mets won a championship was when?

198 ****ing 6

 

[Scion]

i remember when we didn't want to trade drabek + snider to Kansas City for Greinke + Gordon

Speak for yourself...

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Hey, just give us Dickey without an extension and you can have JPA and something decent. I don't want TDA traded!

 

[Woodman19]

Hopefully things pick up and we can get some resolution this evening.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

i remember when we didn't want to trade drabek + snider to Kansas City for Greinke + Gordon

Pretty sure that's what AA aimed for. Royals wanted Snider + Drabek ++ for just Grienke which seemed ridiculous at the time.

 

[Leo Getz]

why can't it be jpa ++

Why stop there, why can't it be Buck + Lind. Bamn.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Hey, just give us Dickey without an extension and you can have JPA and something decent. I don't want TDA traded!

I don't want a guy that does not really want to be here.

 

[smitty10]

Speak for yourself...

He's right though. We always prefer to take the chance at developing a younger, homegrown talent rather than acquiring a proven player. I love what AA is doing right now. If he can get Davis, Dickey and a reliever from the Mets for D'Arnaud+ I will be absolutely thrilled. This team will have World Series potential.

 

[smitty10]

I don't want a guy that does not really want to be here.

I don't think AA would either. I'm sure if he's trading for Dickey and giving up someone like D'Arnaud that he'll speak to R.A. before acquiring him.

 

[calcal798]

LOL That is unbelievable. Talk about bang for your buck.

Yep seriously. Considering we are getting all Major Leaguers that will, for the most part, influence the team for 2 + years (and some, quite significantly) and there is not a large chance all of these kids will have impactful careers, we could come out looking like bandits.