Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season III: Ray/Semien out, Gausman in. Jays linked to everyone. Labor strife happening.

[djdev]

If I'm not mistaken Moreno was signed as an infielder and converted to catcher.

ye SS i believe, could be they saw him as a catcher all along, who knows. still..hes a catcher now haha.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Discoverer]

He looks way different without the goatee.

 

[Kurtz]

I didn't know that about Tokyo.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[ShaneFalco]

Meanwhile, it was interesting to see Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic report that the Brewers and Blue Jays discussed a swap of Jackie Bradley Jr. for Randal Grichuk. Those discussions reflect a willingness to move Grichuk and a desire for centre field depth behind George Springer.

 

[Maestro84]

Here's the con about signing Kris Bryant. The Jays could get themselves into a Leafs-like situation in a few years where they're going to have a few guys all locked up to $100M+ deals assuming Vlad and Bo get lifetime deals with the Jays.

You'd have Springer, Berrios, Gausman, Vlad, Bo, and Bryant all making a crapload of money in the years 2025 and 2026 and I certainly would not want that to be the reason why the Jays are going to suddenly lack depth on their team. I know MLB has way more spending power than NHL but that's still a lot of big contracts on a single team

I know that's ages from now but it's worth considering if the Jays truly want to be elite year in year out for the next eternity like the Dodgers are.

 

[Maplebeasts]

Here's the con about signing Kris Bryant. The Jays could get themselves into a Leafs-like situation in a few years where they're going to have a few guys all locked up to $100M+ deals assuming Vlad and Bo get lifetime deals with the Jays.

You'd have Springer, Berrios, Gausman, Vlad, Bo, and Bryant all making a crapload of money in the years 2025 and 2026 and I certainly would not want that to be the reason why the Jays are going to suddenly lack depth on their team. I know MLB has way more spending power than NHL but that's still a lot of big contracts on a single team

I know that's ages from now but it's worth considering if the Jays truly want to be elite year in year out for the next eternity like the Dodgers are.

If the Jays manage to become serious world series contender again the money is not a problem. In 2016 they were 3rd in MLB attendance and stayed in the top 5 in 2017. The only thing keeping them out of the top 3 in 2015 was the fact that they didn't really break out as a team record-wise until after the Tulowitski trade. When the Jays are winning there is hardly a team in baseball that puts more butts into seats. Nevermind that Rogers is one of the richest ownership groups in the MLB.

 

[Maestro84]

If the Jays manage to become serious world series contender again the money is not a problem. In 2016 they were 3rd in MLB attendance and stayed in the top 5 in 2017. The only thing keeping them out of the top 3 in 2015 was the fact that they didn't really break out as a team record-wise until after the Tulowitski trade. When the Jays are winning there is hardly a team in baseball that puts more butts into seats. Nevermind that Rogers is one of the richest ownership groups in the MLB.

True I guess we'll see what happens I'd like it if Bryant joins the team but as players start getting more experience they're gonna want to get paid so that's in the back of my mind

 

[Maestro84]

Also it's interesting how the entire 2016 Cubs team is now FAs. Rizzo, Bryant, Baez, and Schwarber were the kids who ended the drought and here they are now as FAs

 

[Maplebeasts]

True I guess we'll see what happens I'd like it if Bryant joins the team but as players start getting more experience they're gonna want to get paid so that's in the back of my mind

Me too man. The Jays would have without question the best infield in baseball if they can land him and he also is a bonus in that he fills that hole at 3B. So long as people go to games as the Jays are winning like they have in the past and Rogers is willing to spend money should not be a problem for this franchise.

 

[Deebo]

 

[The Nemesis]

f*** off, Mets. You ruin everything you touch.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Emerica]

It begins

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I am guessing the Jays don't care about losing a couple of older prospects who were not doing that well in the high minors?

 

[phillipmike]

 

[dredeye]

Well that would piss me off to no end

 

[Michael HOMERUNing]

Well that would piss me off to no end

I would kick CM to the curb to keep Walker

 

[Kurtz]

Stakes are pretty high for the Mets - it's hard to envision them going with a rookie manager.

 

[dredeye]

I would kick CM to the curb to keep Walker

Right

 

[phillipmike]

Stakes are pretty high for the Mets - it's hard to envision them going with a rookie manager.

Completely agree. It’s just speculation on Walker so he hasn’t gotten an interview.

Also the Mets need to rebuild the entire org, I wouldn’t put it past them to interview Walker as the manager and at the end make a comment insinuating they would want him to be their pitching coach and they would give him a ridiculous amount of money. Perhaps pay him like a manager to be the pitching coach.

Walker was drafted by the Mets and grew up 3-4 hours away.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Kurtz]

Completely agree. It’s just speculation on Walker so he hasn’t gotten an interview.

Also the Mets need to rebuild the entire org, I wouldn’t put it past them to interview Walker as the manager and at the end make a comment insinuating they would want him to be their pitching coach and they would give him a ridiculous amount of money. Perhaps pay him like a manager to be the pitching coach.

Walker was drafted by the Mets and grew up 3-4 hours away.

Yeah, that's my bigger concern as well - the Mets are more likely to offer Pete a multiple on his salary to be their pitching coach rather than manager.

 

[The Nemesis]

I would kick CM to the curb

Edited for greater accuracy