This is some top notch rationalizing.
Well we acquired what we needed for something that was blocked at the majors. There is a reason why a lot of us like the move. It fixes a hole without hurting our teams depth.
I mean sure if you haven't stopped by this thread since the season ended to see multiple posters mention Varsho as a target and that it would cost more then Jansen to get him maybe. Just because you had no idea who Varsho was until 3 days ago doesn't mean everyone else on here was unaware of the value he would and did command.
I have and he was the year before. He was better last year but that doesn’t make him a stud.
Go back a week and Read then. There were many here, myself included who were hoping Varsho would be the target. Granted we’d have preferred to send Jansen+ but were realistic in knowing it would likely take Kirk or Moreno. Lourdes was a bit out of left field, but really, with him on the last year of his deal he wasn’t overly valuable anyway.
I know Varsho was a popular target. I don't think a lot of people were clamoring to deal Moreno+ to get it done.
It was always going to be Moreno or Kirk. Some people preferred one over the other and either is justifiable but there was no scenario where the Diamondbacks were going to want Jansen as the centrepiece of a deal going back. They are a young team building up, trading for a catcher with two years of control doesn't make any sense. Trading Jansen would have been to another contender say a team like the Cards before they signed their catcher. No matter what we did we were trading a catcher that has the potential to end up an all star.
You said he was below average you didn't have a problem with my word choice in describing him. The only thing holding him back is health. He is 100% not a below average everyday catcher in the majors. He is a top 10 starting catcher in the league and the potential to push higher on that list if he can find health over a full season.
I said below average for what he did the year before. Obviously he can be better now.
Talk about doing everything you can to miss a point and stretch the point to make your non point again. It looks like we got the best player in the trade who is not 32yrs old but 26 yrs old making your example as dumb as your post in general. He’s the same age as the core. Brings elite defence to his position the same as Moreno potentially does for his. No one wanted Moreno traded but it’s not hard for most to understand why he was moved in a deal like this. Both teams win this trade for what their respective team needs. Im sure there are diamondback fans losing their minds that they traded Varsho for an oft injured lf with poor defence and no power and a top prospect. Of course you’re allowed to hate losing a player. Maybe you liked Gurriel personality and don’t like losing it. But this trade makes us better today and in the long run
I don’t need to rationalize anything. I love this trade. I’m surprised Gurriel was added but I’m not bothered at all that he was. I figured if another piece was added it would be like a Biggio. So your “impression” is 100% incorrect and if you notice most of the people that are on board with this trade post here all the time. We’ve been talking about Varsho as a target for most of the off season. That our teams lined up perfectly for a trade. My preference was to move Kirk because I’m a little concerned how his body holds up but I have zero issue with this trade and would have felt the same in your hypothetical scenario last week.
You wanna know a couple other guys who had similar offensive track records to Moreno as catching prospects? Danny Jansen and Daulton Varsho.
I was okay dealing Moreno with Kirk's emergence. Somebody had to go after he broke out.
To you and the rest of this board as well!
I do wonder what an extension for him looks like. I think next off season they’ll be pushing to lock him up
