Blue Jays Discussion: Off-season Edition II - Winter Meeting Madness

[saska sault]

Moreno is still a prospect.. Hes got great potential, would have loved to keep him but this is also our window to win and Jansen and Kirk are known commodities. I wasn't huge on the trading a catcher theory for the sake of it.. But the fact he can play outfield and has speed helps. I expect another move or 2 now.

Just saw Lourdes was involved.... Hopefully more coming back or im not enjoying the trade.

 

[canucksfan]

 

[Joel Ward]

Waiting to hear what else we're getting because theres no way it's Moreno and Gurriel for Varsho

 

[as Pure as Evil]

Must have really liked varsho considering how valued moreno was by the front office.

Wait for all the details

 

[SDig14]

 

[Emerica]

uhh

 

[phillipmike]

Ugly trade. Varsho had a .302 on base percentage last year.

 

[SDig14]

The only issue with Moreno is the power may never develop.

 

[GoonieFace]

Not sure what to think here….

 

[GreytWun]

…

 

[BertCorbeau]

I don’t see good value in this deal… seems like the Jays were a bit desperate to add that lefty bat

 

[leafsfan2point0]

Terrible trade

 

[MS]

I'm not the biggest Moreno fan - I think his lack of power will limit his value and upside - but I think he should have been enough without adding Gurriel.

Nice to see something finally happen though ... even if the team was desperate after so many other options fell through.

 

[Forgotusername]

I don't like it, but then I wasn't too hot on the Berrios trade either, and came around to like it. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

[canucksfan]

Gurriel struggles in the field and he gets injured often. Lost some power last year. I don't like giving up Moreno and him though.

Moreno has excellent potential and if he reaches it he's likely going to be one of the top players in the league. Would have wanted more than Varsho.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Baseball values seems to heavily favour the Jays on this one... And since the Jays traded Gurriel, they still have room to add another OFer. Varsho could also play some catcher so the Jays do not even need to add anyone all that great to be a 3rd catcher (if at all).

Jays defense should be excellent next year at least.

 

[phillipmike]

This trade makes the team better especially defensively. But it is bad value and an overpay.

Would be interesting to see what else they do.

 

[kb]

According to baseball trade values, the Jays made out like bandits.

And saved a few $$$

 

[TMLeafer]

Atkins gutting the Barreo too

 

[stickty111]

Varsho is a good add. Price is an overpayment but atleast they trade a top prospect for once that was tracking well, and not ones that were struggling. Still looks like a desperation deal

 

[canucksfan]

One thing to keep in mind is the Jays have done really well evaluating their prospects. Moreno is excellent defensively but they likely figure his bat doesn't develop well.

 

[GoonieFace]

Wondering if they wanted to change the dynamic by dealing Teo and Gurriel, the ringleaders of dugout antics

 

[Woodman19]

I mean, I love it from a team construction aspect. We turned our dogshit outfield defense into likely the best outfield in baseball. Moreno kinda hurts to lose but hes still just a prospect and we added a legit Left handed batter into the lineup.

 

[mikeyz]

Shatkins did not trade Moreno AND Gurriel for this Varsho guy did they?

 

[phillipmike]

According to baseball trade values, the Jays made out like bandits.

And saved a few $$$

For what it’s worth;

Carroll was at 77. Would have preferred that.