Blue Jays Discussion: Off-season Edition 5.0 - The Winter Meeting Chronicles

[Matt24]

Next year is starting to look not very good.

 

[Jozay]

Next year is starting to look not very good.

still early, but with a system not good enough, gonna be hard to add an impact outfielder.

 

[TF97]

I only liked Fowler for his walk rate, at the price he was going to come at, I wasn't too interested. I still think there are better ways to utilize the remaining money.

 

[Starry Knight]

I'd go for Bautista now.

Deploy him at OF/1B rotating with Pearce.

 

[Paladin2799]

still early, but with a system not good enough, gonna be hard to add an impact outfielder.

Frankly, at the prices being thrown around, I would be happy with resigning EE and picking up some defensively sound outfielders.

Stay the course, we got some great young players in the system that should perform well for us. We don't need to spend like crazy. Get younger, give the youth a chance to play, and keep playing.

 

[Eyedea]

Seth Smith is very good and very available too.

 

[Starry Knight]

Seth Smith is very good and very available too.

Would he be strictly to platoon with Upton?

 

[Eyedea]

Would he be strictly to platoon with Upton?

Yes.

 

[Cor]

"Over-the-top offer"?

I really wanted Fowler, but this could be a comical contract.


Sit down with EE, get a contract done, and add a defensively sound OF'er.

 

[Paneerboy]

Source: Ben Revere on his way to Toronto to take a physical tomorrow. Source confirms he was running and not because he was late for his flight but because he doesn't know how to walk

I lol'ed

 

[SDig14]

Did St. Louis do something crazy and give him like 5 years and $90 million?

 

[oilers89]

Seth Smith is very good and very available too.

Him and Melvin would be a great Platoon. And I don't think he would cost much. Then either sign Jose or try make another deal for Lorenzo Cain

 

[Canada4Gold]

 

[Nasty Nazem]

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman 1m1 minute ago
Fowler's deal expected to be big with stl, as @dgoold said. Unconfirmed, but word is 5 yrs, at least 16M/yr. 80/9M is rumor

16M x 5 is not even that tbh. If it's true, kindly go **** yourself Blue Jays.

 

[Kurtz]

Did St. Louis do something crazy and give him like 5 years and $90 million?

My bet is something around 4/70

 

[TF97]

Source: Ben Revere on his way to Toronto to take a physical tomorrow. Source confirms he was running and not because he was late for his flight but because he doesn't know how to walk

I won't lie, that made me chuckle

#VoteQuimby

 

[Matt24]

I would have been fine with the Jays paying $16M x 5 for Fowler. It's a lot but not ridiculous. Better than doing nothing.

 

[Cor]

80/5 was what Fowler wanted, no?

 

[zeke]

Note that after the ridiculous babip slump to start the year, Tulo pretty much did post a 120ish wrc+ with a normal babip from midmay on.

interestingly, after xander's crazy babip start, from june on his babip fell to normal and he produced at belngino's projected wrc+ the rest of the way too.

To Wit:

Tulo

first 132pa, .189babip, 52wrc+
last 412pa, .293babip, 118wrc+

aside from the crazy babip slump, tulo hit in line with blengino's projection when his babip normalized.

Bogaerts

first 232pa, .404babip, 148wrc+
last 487pa, .300babip, 97wrc+

again, right in line with blengino's projection when his babip normalized.

 

[Hoverhand]

It'd be difficult to platoon Upton because he can't hit Lefties or Righties.

 

[Canada4Gold]

They can have him at anywhere near 5/90, that's gross

 

[SDig14]

The 5th year for Desmond probably solidified Fowler's stance of wanting 5 years and not taking any less as far as term.

Didn't mean a team had to give it to him, but I figured they would.

 

[zeke]

that price is perfectly fine for fowler. our FO are *******.

we better sign EE and/or Joey now.

 

[TF97]

It'd be difficult to platoon Upton because he can't hit Lefties or Righties.

132 wRC+ against LHP last season. Career 109 wRC+ against LHP.

 

[Starry Knight]

It'd be difficult to platoon Upton because he can't hit Lefties or Righties.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statsplits.aspx?playerid=5015&position=OF&season=0&split=0.5