Off-season discussion

[HabsQC]

I can't see San Jose making this deal. They'd probably get more attractive pieces in 2 seperate deals of Jumbo & Marleau. And they might not want to waive their full NMC.

Well I don't know about you but I'm ready to overpay a bit to get both.

 

[OldCraig71]

Joe Thornton would never get along with Therrien, simply too much skill and not enough grind.

 

[Ezpz]

Funny how the players paint the picture of MT and Lefebvre that us fans have been painting for the last three years. Where's Des Louise and the other defenders?

 

[Monctonscout]

How did Therrien help Price win the Hart or Vezina? He did Price no favors all season long. Habs were outshot for the large majority of games in the regular season. If anything it was Price who helped Therrien keep his job.

By having a team that pays a lot of attention to defense, wins faceoffs, blocks shots and does a great job killing penalties.

Did you watch this past season or is your PVR stuck on 2011-2012?

 

[Saint Patrick]

Subban's the true leader, not Patches. Patches is thirsty for the C on his sweater, damn.

Amen. Patches can brown nose all he wants, he hasn't accomplished half of what PK has done and doesn't have leadership qualities close to PK.

 

[Monctonscout]

Funny how the players paint the picture of MT and Lefebvre that us fans have been painting for the last three years. Where's Des Louise and the other defenders?

What picture is that?

 

[JayKing]

http://www.lapresse.ca/sports/hockey/201409/16/01-4800584-marc-bergevin-une-annee-de-transition.php

PK is not very bright.

That's not how the question was approached though. It wasn't approached in the sense of leadership but in terms of overall performance.

 

[Compile]

Looks like MTs power base in the room is Pac and DD, It's in his best interest to keep them around...

Ahem, I said this a last season....

 

[CanadienShark]

Trade proposal :
To SJ : Plekanec, Emelin, Tinordi, Bournival, Tokarski, 2015 1st, 2016 cond. 2nd (become 1st if MTL is beastmode),

To MTL :
Thornton, Marleau

Sharks look to rebuild and change era and i get the feeling we can take advantage of that. Am I giving too much ? Not enough ? You guys tell... I agree they might wanna get more by trading the two separately and its not EA sports and all that, but it would still be awesome IMO.

Mtl re-signs Petry 5.5 X 5 and Mitchell for as low ap


Pacioretty - Galchenyuk - Gallagher
Eller - Thornton - Marleau
Hudon - DD - Parenteau
Weise - Mitchell - Prust

Subban - Markov
Beaulieu - Petry
Pateryn - Gilbert
UFA

Price
UFA/trade

I'll make a list of the pieces in there that do NOT interest the Sharks:

Plekanec, Emelin, Tinordi, Bournival, Tokarski

Don't expect to get two very good (albeit older) players for lesser players and general crap, along with a couple picks.

 

[Ezpz]

What picture is that?

Therrien is a terrible coach with a terrible system.

 

[Andy]

Andrew Berkshire ‏@AndrewBerkshire 1m1 minute ago
Galchenyuk has said repeatedly that he was asked to move back to wing and agreed to help the team.

Andrew Berkshire ‏@AndrewBerkshire 2m2 minutes ago
The whole "Galchenyuk asked to be moved to wing" thing has been outed as Therrien not being truthful already, media should stop repeating it

 

[JayKing]

Well I don't know about you but I'm ready to overpay a bit to get both.

If we're overpaying, I'd rather get Pavelski.

 

[Saint Patrick]

Oh man...Chucky wants center.

**** Therrien seriously

 

[Monctonscout]

No, his grade is an I for incomplete because we did not experiment with him at all in the top 6. The strongest evidence against Eller would have been him given top 6 roles and him failing, just like a science experiment.

He played in the top 6 at different times. I don't need to see Mitchell in the top 6 to know he isn't a top 6 guy, it's just common sense. Same for Eller, watching him play speaks for itself.

 

[smirob]

Andrew Berkshire ‏@AndrewBerkshire 1m1 minute ago
Galchenyuk has said repeatedly that he was asked to move back to wing and agreed to help the team.

Andrew Berkshire ‏@AndrewBerkshire 2m2 minutes ago
The whole "Galchenyuk asked to be moved to wing" thing has been outed as Therrien not being truthful already, media should stop repeating it

Yeah this is well known now, he basically halted the development of one of the best centre prospects we've had in a long time to favour his boy.

 

[Kriss E]

By having a team that pays a lot of attention to defense, wins faceoffs, blocks shots and does a great job killing penalties.

Did you watch this past season or is your PVR stuck on 2011-2012?

I don't think you know what playing defense is if you think we helped Price in that regard.

 

[WeThreeKings]

By having a team that pays a lot of attention to defense, wins faceoffs, blocks shots and does a great job killing penalties.

Did you watch this past season or is your PVR stuck on 2011-2012?

http://ingoalmag.com/general/beyond-the-big-four-rethinking-the-vezina-numbers/

Price made Therriens system look better. Not the other way around, sorry.

 

[Saint Patrick]

Anyone else think Chucky just hit puberty yesterday? lol He looks older overnight. No its not the beard, the eyes man, he looks meaner.

I'll see myself out, thank you.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

Joe Thornton would never get along with Therrien, simply too much skill and not enough grind.

Too much East-West and vision. Threat to DD must be humiliated, shamed, and then eliminated.

 

[Ginu]

Yeah, even if Bergevin thinks he should replace Therrien with somebody else, he pretty much can't at this point. How the hell are you gonna explain firing a coach that managed to finish 2nd in the entire league to the majority of fans that care "casual"? Most people either don't care enough or don't like to think enough to look beyond Da Record.

Hopefully he replaces Lefebvre in Hamilton though, that would be a begining.

Because nobody cares about the regular season. We're not here to come 1st in the standings. We're here for the Cup. The system doesn't suit the style of play in the playoffs, simple.

 

[HabsQC]

That makes no sense.

A-the Habs have a young core, makes no sense to cripple your team for a 1-2 year window

B_those guys have not exactly led the Sharks to glory in their career or the last few years.

C-if you were to get those guys, why the hell would you put Eller with them? Give them a legit top 6 linemate.

A- The core is indeed young, but they also need solid vets to support them. See Edmonton. I have a feeling we need to seriously upgrade the offense and go next year. 1sts are likely high and never a sure shot after the 20th pick. I don't think it would cripple the team more than it would help for those two years.

B- Let's try them with the best goalie in the world, see how they do.

C- I wanted the two gallys with patch, marleau and thornton together. DD Not higher than third line. I liked Eller in the playoffs and think he deserves a bigger role. Maybe EGG line as 2nd line and Pacioretty woth the sharks could very well work too.you can shuffle them as you wish, that's not very important.

 

[Monctonscout]

Therrien is a terrible coach with a terrible system.

Yet the facts prove the exact opposite...but this place has never been strong on facts.

 

[Burke the Legend]

Joe Thornton would never get along with Therrien, simply too much skill and not enough grind.

Not quite, Joe's game is big on cycling to create the setup.

 

[Andy]

He played in the top 6 at different times. I don't need to see Mitchell in the top 6 to know he isn't a top 6 guy, it's just common sense. Same for Eller, watching him play speaks for itself.

False. The only time he played in the top 6 this year was as a winger. And like the excuse you made with DD's struggles on the wing this season, Eller simply isn't a winger and his game is not conducive to that position.

The last time Eller was given an offensive role was in 2012-2013 and the beginning of 2013-2014. In 2012-2013 he had above 30% in o-zone starts and produced 30 points in 46 games. He also had offensive wingers in the 2013-2014 playoffs and led the forwards in points. That's enough to suggest an offensive game there, even more so when the player himself believes he can do so.

 

[Seb]

Anyone else think Chucky just hit puberty yesterday? lol He looks older overnight. No its not the beard, the eyes man, he looks meaner.

I'll see myself out, thank you.

First thing I told myself while watching the interview. Baby face is starting to fade away.