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phillipmike said:
Same. Some were happy to avoid his $17M salary last year on a one year deal. Think how bad a $150-200M+ 7-10+ year deal would look like after a year.

Give me 3-4 batters on 1 year deals worth $10-20M each to lengthen you lineup and core already of Bo, Springer, Vlad and Kirk. Bring in some more vets who know how to hit like a Turner, JD, Votto etc

If they pan out, great, if not then you have a lot of MLB ready guys;

Barger
Damiano
Orelvis
Schneider
Horwitz

Maybe Roden

Who can all learn from these guys in spring training.
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This is the way I would go as well unless there is a trade option out there we don't know about.

Bellinger is too risky for a long term contract at a high price.
 
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From here on out everyone and their grandmother is going to use the Jays as very public leverage to drive a market since we won't confirm or deny it.
 
I know it hurts right now, but I think the Jays dodged a big one. He will kill it in LA because they are good enough with or without him. If he was 22, I would have loved this signing. At 33-40 he will not live up to this.

He would have batted 4 times a game and been pitched around more often than not.
 
I can see the Jays being heavily interested in Bellinger but I still don’t see him choosing us or the Giants getting outbid.

Giants have lost Gausman and Rodon. Posey retired and Crawford is likely to. Lost other core or high priced guys in MadBum, Longoria, McCutchen, Cueto and Belt. They lost out on Judge and Correa. Not to mention Ohtani who just went to their division rival.

Giants will throw money to Bellinger and maybe even Chapman. And Bellinger is used to the west coast and he is from Arizona where they play their spring training games. He’s a slam dunk for the Giants.
 
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What would you guys think of a challenge of Manoah for Cease? It doesn't really fill any holes for us but I think Cease's underlying numbers portend a higher chance of a bounce back (he still had 3.7WAR in a down year).

Why would Chicago do it? They look to be retooling/rebuilding and Cease is on the block already. He's 27, in his 2nd year of arbitration, with only two years of control left. Manoah is only 25 with 4 more years of control and not arbitration eligible until 2025. If he bounces back he's also a #1 type starter with more control.
 
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What would you guys think of a challenge of Manoah for Cease? It doesn't really fill any holes for us but I think Cease's underlying numbers portend a higher chance of a bounce back (he still had 3.7WAR in a down year).

Why would Chicago do it? They look to be retooling/rebuilding and Cease is on the block already. He's 27, in his 2nd year of arbitration, with only two years of control left. Manoah is only 25 with 4 more years of control and not arbitration eligible until 2025. If he bounces back he's also a #1 type starter with more control.
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This is an interesting idea. But with so much uncertainty right now, I'd personally want to hold onto the player with 4 years of control who's a former ace over 2 years of control. I don't think we're at "rebuild status" right now, but given how strong the division is, I don't want to be giving up extra years of control unless we're primed for a run.
 
GreytWun said:
AA didn’t have this kind of money or term to spend.



Yea sure it’s better for baseball that he is on the west coast and again no one will be watching him due to time zone.
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You missed the sarcasm. There was an American journalist who implied that MLB wanted him in LA because it was better for baseball (who probably should have his press pass revoked because for being a neanderthal)
 
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Jays should have offered him 10 years, 1 Billion. he would have signed for that. first player in any major NA sport to sign for 1 Billion . I would have done it too. He's basically two players, global superstar, merch alone
 
Ed got outbid again .. same old same old .. can't blame an agent for getting his client da mx .. that's life .. winners win losers lose
 
Unfortunately for Bellinger, he isn't Ohtani so the whole baseball world doesn't care where he or his gf are.
 
Nineteen67 said:
Is there a national TV contract? Baseball is mainly a regional sport with a few teams that garner national attention and the Blue Jays are not one of those teams.
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Baseball has national contracts with FOX (and FS1), ESPN, TBS, Peacock, and Apple.
 
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