Oakland Athletics relocation to Las Vegas thread: Move to Vegas approved by MLB owners - Will play in Sacramento for 3-4 years

[BigBadBruins7708]

the 9 acre vegas strip site wasn't even the original plan for vegas. the original plan was 50 acres and a surrounding entertainment district just like fisher wanted in oakland, first at the red rocks casino site and then the rio. they were told to f*** off by both. that's why they had to settle for the measly 9 acre site on the strip. oakland obviously isn't vegas in terms of entertainment, but a 9 acre ballpark in oakland would've meant a good chunk of land to build any entertainment/shopping district. but like i said, oakland was never an option for the A's or MLB


it absolutely is settling when you were originally wanting 50 acres AND for the public to pay for everything. instead, he's left with a 9 acre site and having to foot the bill for hundreds of millions of dollars

He was wanting 50 acres when the plan was not to be on The Strip. Once the prospect on land in the middle of The Strip became an option the size can drop since he no longer needs to build an entertainment district with it.

Also, you are wrong on both counts. He wasnt told to go screw by the Red Rock site or the Rio site. The A's chose not to build there. The Red Rock offer was for the open land behind the casino/mall and next to the current Aviators stadium, the offer was made by the land owners (The Howard Hughes Corp, not Red Rock Casino). The Rio land was offered to the A's for $1, it was the A's that said no.

Firm offers free land if Oakland A’s relocate to Summerlin

The Howard Hughes Corp. — which owns the A’s Triple-A affiliate, the Las Vegas Aviators, and their home, the Las Vegas Ballpark — says it is willing to provide the Major League Ba...

www.reviewjournal.com

A’s turned down $1 plot in resort corridor before settling on site for $1.5B Vegas stadium - The Nevada Independent

The Oakland A's sought $500 million in public financing for a new stadium near the Strip, while an alternative site was available for just $1.

thenevadaindependent.com

 

[Terry Yake]

He was wanting 50 acres when the plan was not to be on The Strip. Once the prospect on land in the middle of The Strip became an option the size can drop since he no longer needs to build an entertainment district with it.

Also, you are wrong on both counts. He wasnt told to go screw by the Red Rock site or the Rio site. The A's chose not to build there. The Red Rock offer was for the open land behind the casino/mall and next to the current Aviators stadium, the offer was made by the land owners (The Howard Hughes Corp, not Red Rock Casino). The Rio land was offered to the A's for $1, it was the A's that said no.

Firm offers free land if Oakland A’s relocate to Summerlin

The Howard Hughes Corp. — which owns the A’s Triple-A affiliate, the Las Vegas Aviators, and their home, the Las Vegas Ballpark — says it is willing to provide the Major League Ba...

www.reviewjournal.com

A’s turned down $1 plot in resort corridor before settling on site for $1.5B Vegas stadium - The Nevada Independent

The Oakland A's sought $500 million in public financing for a new stadium near the Strip, while an alternative site was available for just $1.

thenevadaindependent.com

just shows that the whole "entertainment district" was pure BS by fisher to make it seem like oakland was actually an option.

he figured the city would balk at his demands and make it easier for the A's to leave, but when they actually showed they were willing to give him what he wanted, he freaked out and started the vegas negotiations

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

https://www.thestreet.com/travel/oakland-as-las-vegas-strip-ballpark-funding-faces-huge-threat

Vegas residents pushing back and trying to (rightfully) force a referendum.

just shows that the whole "entertainment district" was pure BS by fisher to make it seem like oakland was actually an option.

he figured the city would balk at his demands and make it easier for the A's to leave, but when they actually showed they were willing to give him what he wanted, he freaked out and started the vegas negotiations

This!!!

A’s: we need 375 million.

Oakland: here’s 410 with more money coming later.

A’s: ummmmmm…….make it 677 million and I want it now!

Hmmmmmmm

 

[John Price]

 

[Filthy Dangles]

If you like lots of crime, especially violent crime and being carjacked or robbed in daylight, it's a great city

 

[Dr Pepper]

If you like lots of crime, especially violent crime and being carjacked or robbed in daylight, it's a great city

Chicago Bears
Chicago White Sox
Chicago Cubs
Chicago Bulls
Chicago Blackhawks

.....I mean, you're gonna find crime all over the US, but I still didn't figure that would be a reason for a team to relocate.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Chicago Bears
Chicago White Sox
Chicago Cubs
Chicago Bulls
Chicago Blackhawks

.....I mean, you're gonna find crime all over the US, but I still didn't figure that would be a reason for a team to relocate.

Chicago isn't top 40 in crime rate per capita, but go on.

List of United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dr Pepper]

Chicago isn't top 40 in crime rate per capita, but go on.

List of United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ok.

My point was that there's crime all over the US - Chicago included - and I don't recall it ever being a factor when a team gets relocated.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Ok.

My point was that there's crime all over the US - Chicago included - and I don't recall it ever being a factor when a team gets relocated.

Oakland is qutie frankly in a league of it's own right now and not comparable to Chicago as long as you aren't in the 'wrong hood' which sports teams and athletes are not).

Oakland as a whole is not safe.

 

[Unholy Diver]

Chicago isn't top 40 in crime rate per capita, but go on.

List of United States cities by crime rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Give yourself some credit though and sort a few columns

14th in murder and non-negligent manslaughter
8th in robbery
17th in total violent crime

no need to be modest, sure it isn't Oakland, which is 11th in total violent crime, but it isn't Mayberry either

 

[These Are The Days]

So where are we at with all this exactly? MLB votes in November and that's it?

 

[Cas]

Oakland is qutie frankly in a league of it's own right now

Not really - crime rates in Oakland pale in comparison to St. Louis or Memphis (pretty much the worst two by any standard), even if they're still high.

 

[Haguerbomb]

A's are now suing to try to get the referendum stopped.

Schools Over Stadiums sued over referendum to overturn funding for Oakland Athletics ballpark

Representatives from the political action committee Schools Over Stadiums state they were served with a lawsuit by stadium proponents with ties to Oakland Athletics management.

www.ktnv.com

 

[John Price]

 

[Terry Yake]

tHe a'S aRe m0vIng bEcAuSe tHe fAnS dOnT sH0w uP !

 

[Terry Yake]

love to see it

 

[GKJ]

love to see it

Why’s he retiring? He was great this year.

 

[Terry Yake]

Why’s he retiring? He was great this year.

said he wanted to go out on his own terms and while he was still healthy. also said he knew he was going to retire after the season for a while now

 

[John Price]

May rips A's owner while announcing retirement

Athletics relief pitcher Trevor May ripped owner John Fisher while announcing his retirement on his Twitch stream Monday, telling Fisher to "sell the team."

www.espn.com

 

[spintheblackcircle]

May rips A's owner while announcing retirement

Athletics relief pitcher Trevor May ripped owner John Fisher while announcing his retirement on his Twitch stream Monday, telling Fisher to "sell the team."

www.espn.com

"Sell the team, dude. ... Sell it, man,'' he said. "Let someone who actually, like, takes pride in the things they own, own something. There's actually people who give a s--- about the game. Let them do it. Take mommy and daddy's money somewhere else, dork."

"If you're going to be a greedy f---, own it," May said. "There's nothing weaker than being afraid of cameras. ... Do what you're going to do, bro. Whatever, you're a billionaire, they exist, you guys have all this power -- you shouldn't have any because you haven't earned any of it, but anyway, whatever."

 

[blueandgoldguy]

"Sell the team, dude. ... Sell it, man,'' he said. "Let someone who actually, like, takes pride in the things they own, own something. There's actually people who give a s--- about the game. Let them do it. Take mommy and daddy's money somewhere else, dork."

"If you're going to be a greedy f---, own it," May said. "There's nothing weaker than being afraid of cameras. ... Do what you're going to do, bro. Whatever, you're a billionaire, they exist, you guys have all this power -- you shouldn't have any because you haven't earned any of it, but anyway, whatever."

Haha nice.

 

[John Price]

Protesting Oakland Athletics fans meet with owner John Fisher ahead of Las Vegas vote

Baseball's owners are set to vote Thursday on the Oakland Athletics moving to Las Vegas – but these fans won't go quietly.

www.usatoday.com

 

[John Price]

 

[GKJ]

Well, what’s done is done I guess.

 

[John Price]