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Oakland Athletics relocation to Las Vegas thread: Move to Vegas approved by MLB owners - Will play in Sacramento for 3-4 years

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VivaLasVegas said:
The A's are like another drunk tourist from California who has shown up after a divorce looking for a little action, but without a major bankroll. And is being welcomed about the same.

We'd probably jump on any MLB team except the Athletics, but a cheapskate owner can just keep moving on past.
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The situation in Oakland is no different than the one in Sacramento was with the Kings. Difference here is the commissioner’s.

Stern kept the Kings here because of the local support while Manfred is openly working against local support in Oakland.
 
Quid Pro Clowe said:
The situation in Oakland is no different than the one in Sacramento was with the Kings. Difference here is the commissioner’s.

Stern kept the Kings here because of the local support while Manfred is openly working against local support in Oakland.
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No surprise as the A's leaving puts the Giants on a more stable footing and the MLB badly wants a Vegas presence. Trouble is, Vegas would rather hold out for an expansion team than take on a crapass budget franchise.
 
VivaLasVegas said:
No surprise as the A's leaving puts the Giants on a more stable footing and the MLB badly wants a Vegas presence. Trouble is, Vegas would rather hold out for an expansion team than take on a crapass budget franchise.
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Bay Area is so much bigger if a market than Vegas. It can easily handle both teams. The fans here have proven people will support the team when the owner gives a damn.

Point is, neither city should want to give a damn cent to the A’s until they promise to sell to a competent group.
 
Quid Pro Clowe said:
Point is, neither city should want to give a damn cent to the A’s until they promise to sell to a competent group.
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Strongly agree. I don't know if you have followed the A's presentation to the special session of the Nevada legislature called just for this purpose, but it's been a total shit show by the A's so far. Makes Meruelo's ongoing clown show in Phoenix look outright professional in comparison.

Vegas would much rather spend the bucks on an NBA team which will very strongly be supported by visiting fans' tourism, just like the Knights and the Raiders, and Vegas knows that they are probably #1 in line for a MLB expansion franchise anyway, so there is very little interest in taking on the A's with this disaster of an owner (other than the Nevada governor who is desperate for any feather in his political cap and is the only one pushing it who doesn't have an obvious financial interest).
 
VivaLasVegas said:
Strongly agree. I don't know if you have followed the A's presentation to the special session of the Nevada legislature called just for this purpose, but it's been a total shit show by the A's so far. Makes Meruelo's ongoing clown show in Phoenix look outright professional in comparison.

Vegas would much rather spend the bucks on an NBA team which will very strongly be supported by visiting fans' tourism, just like the Knights and the Raiders, and Vegas knows that they are probably #1 in line for a MLB expansion franchise anyway, so there is very little interest in taking on the A's with this disaster of an owner (other than the Nevada governor who is desperate for any feather in his political cap and is the only one pushing it who doesn't have an obvious financial interest).
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Kaval showing up at all was impressive. That guy has been in hiding from Oakland for a few years now. The fact he dodged and avoided very basic questions doesn’t surprise me in the slightest, either.

Vegas is getting a team regardless of the end result here. The A’s are at the least laying groundwork and making some connections for another, more competent owner to swoop in and put the money down. It makes sense to buy the A’s and move them there to save on relocation fees and expansion fees, but it shouldn’t be at the expense of the taxpayers if they don’t want to pay for it.
 
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These Are The Days said:
Don't let this distract you from the fact Vegas managed to build 2 stadiums for teams they didn't even have and are discussing a 3rd before the Rays could even get 1 built for themselves
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Well, it's Vegas. It's a lot easier to get construction projects done in Vegas than in other cities. There's a lot less red tape. Because both of those things are just a huge part of what Vegas IS.


Quid Pro Clowe said:
The situation in Oakland is no different than the one in Sacramento was with the Kings. Difference here is the commissioner’s.

Stern kept the Kings here because of the local support while Manfred is openly working against local support in Oakland.
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It IS different I'm definitely on Team Oakland and Fisher should sell the team because he's a scumbag... (I'm even rocking my kelly green shirt today in honor of the A's Reverse Boycott).

But the situation is different because the Kings were possibly on the move and saved by the league rejecting a relocation bid to buy the team and finding local ownership instead, and the team moving from Arco Arena to the new place...

While the A's were in the same place as the Kings... not NOW, but back in 1988 when ARCO ARENA OPENED. And then the Kings got a deal done for a new arena and moved in for 2016, seven seasons ago.


Fisher is a scumbag, I strongly dislike Manfred because I think he's a backward thinking d-bag... but it's impossible to not see Manfred's point that "enough is enough, Oakland has had 30 years to take care of the A's and hasn't."
 
Nevada ain't ranked 29th out of 30th in Education for nothing. What an awful deal for the taxpayers. Team barely anyone wants and they're going to have to foot the bill.
 
Blitzkrug said:
Nevada ain't ranked 29th out of 30th in Education for nothing. What an awful deal for the taxpayers. Team barely anyone wants and they're going to have to foot the bill.
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We pretty much pay no taxes as it is. There's no income tax and property tax is only 0.5%, among the lowest in the country.

Tourists and casinos foot pretty much all the tax bill here
 
This reverse boycott thing is fun. I fired up MLBtv after the Cup was presented (which kind of ironic that Vegas wins the Cup the same night Oakland fans scheduled their protest vs the Rays on a Tuesday).

But it's a riot.

The ballpark was half-full at first pitch because there wasn't enough stadium staff to get everyone into the ballpark. Huge lines during the first few innings.

The Oakland broadcast isn't allowed to acknowledge the reverse boycott, which is just non-stop chanting "Sell the Team" "Stay in Oakland" and "F--- John Fisher," which you can't NOT hear on the broadcast.

They're trying to give the crowd shoutouts without saying anything that gets them fired (the color guy stopped by the fans pregame and was offered a SELL t-shirt and said "not if you want to see me tomorrow.")
 
KevFu said:
Lewis Black had a thing on one of the states going from 50th to 49th in education, and he said "what was the secret? How'd they do it? I think they shot some dumb kids."
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Addition by subtraction. There was a joke when I was living in St Louis, that you could raise the IQ of both Missouri & Arkansas by giving Arkansas the 2 boothill counties.
 
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Vegas (and Nevadans) may pay low taxes, but it’s also a big reason why their education ranks 46th out of 50 in funding.

I would say this is all but over but the language written in the proposal agreed upon by Nevada senate is that a baseball team will move into a stadium at a location on the land, it doesn’t specifically state the Oakland A’s will move there. Until that detail changes, I’ll hold out hope the A’s will stay.

I could definitely see mlb and Fisher setting up a sell in the Bay Area while also making a binding deal for an expansion owner in Vegas.
 


Louder in Oakland last night out doors for a regular season win than it was in Vegas for winning the cup.



Vegas sports fans in a nutshell.
 
Quid Pro Clowe said:


Louder in Oakland last night out doors for a regular season win than it was in Vegas for winning the cup.



Vegas sports fans in a nutshell.
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and that's just what you hear on the broadcast that was drowning out the crowd noise all night. if you watch the clips posted to social media by fans who were at the game, you'll hear just how loud it was. probably the loudest i've heard the coliseum since they clinched the west in 2012
 
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KevFu said:
Eh, it's definitely not a fan vs fan thing between Oakland and Vegas.

It's owner vs government.
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You have rational, feeling free opinions on this matter because you’re not in the thick of it. I’m looking it up daily and our fans have been compared to Vegas’ and dragged in the mud. The posts of “our AAA team outdraws Oakland” have been countless.

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It was 9-3 Vegas, they had all game to celebrate.
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Which is even more reason to celebrate hard once it ends. There should be a build up when you know you’re about to win the championship.
 
Quid Pro Clowe said:
You have rational, feeling free opinions on this matter because you’re not in the thick of it. I’m looking it up daily and our fans have been compared to Vegas’ and dragged in the mud. The posts of “our AAA team outdraws Oakland” have been countless.
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Right. I'm on your side on this. There shouldn't be ANY "Oakland Fans vs Vegas Fans" non-sense at all. Pitting Oakland fans vs Vegas fans serves the owners and is the wrong narrative.

The issue is that John Fisher is a scumbag and the Athletics belong in Oakland.

Fans need to be united with other fans instead of the owners and commissioners who don't give a damn about fans.

Because guess what? If it can happen to one team, it can happen to your team. I even UNDERSTAND the MLB/Fisher point of view and semi-agree with them: It's been 30 years and the team cannot stay in the Coliseum, they need a new stadium.

But the solution is to WORK TOGETHER WITH OAKLAND and build something Oakland. Not run the team into the ground so you can abandoned Oakland.

The reverse boycott was awesome. I watched it twice. Both broadcasts. I wore green while watching it, too. I guess I'm NOT feeling-free on this, I feel very strongly on this.


The MUST BE a second Bay Area team, and there's no reason why it shouldn't be the Oakland A's. Even if you have to do the Cleveland Browns Deal so the Oakland A's have new ownership and an expansion draft.

Anyone comparing fanbases has no clue what's really happening. That's the point.
 
KevFu said:
Right. I'm on your side on this. There shouldn't be ANY "Oakland Fans vs Vegas Fans" non-sense at all. Pitting Oakland fans vs Vegas fans serves the owners and is the wrong narrative.
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Agree. On the Oakland side of this, but disparaging Vegas fans based on 5 seconds worth of footage of a few dozen fans is stupid.
 
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