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Oakland A's to play in Sacramento for a few years while Las Vegas stadium is built

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KevFu said:
very uninspired renderings.

It's also really weird to see symmetrical round walls in the OF of a baseball stadium nowadays.
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Love the comments on reddit where people are saying someone probably just used an AI program last minute to blend the Coliseum and the Vegas Skyline. It's even got the same horrible foul territory of the Coliseum.

The renderings assume the full 30+ acres, are oriented wrong and there won't be any skyline once the casino is built.
 
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Anisimovs AK said:
Does anyone really think a city as small as Vegas can support 81 home games in a 40k-60k stadium a season? Baseball seems like the worst sport for medium to small markets to have
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I think Vegas could be a three sport market off of tourist dollars and casino comps but the reality is baseball is just the worst sport for it, full stop. Cannot imagine any of the summer tourists (how many are there, even, relative to colder months?) leaving an air conditioned casino or resort pool to go spend two hours watching the A's. The NBA makes much more sense for Vegas than MLB.

Lots of blame to go around in the A's saga but imo most of it still falls on MLB for not having the courage to tell the Giants to f*** off and letting the team move to San Jose. I will say this for the NHL: Gary Bettman would never, ever let a franchise relocate if there was a legitimate offer to keep them in the same market. Especially with the potential value of the South Bay over the long term.
 
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I think this is correct, but presuming this does happen, does this make Oakland the only city in North America to have had, and lost, their only representative in each of the big 4 sports leagues? I know St. Louis has lost at least one in each of the four sports (the NHL Eagles in 1935, Browns in 1953, Hawks in 1968, NFL Cardinals in 1988 and Rams in 2016) but they never lost the MLB Cardinals. This would see Oakland lose the Golden Seals in 1976, the Raiders in 1982 and 2020, the Warriors back to San Francisco in 2019, and the As whenever this deal is done.
 
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ponder719 said:
I think this is correct, but presuming this does happen, does this make Oakland the only city in North America to have had, and lost, their only representative in each of the big 4 sports leagues? I know St. Louis has lost at least one in each of the four sports (the NHL Eagles in 1935, Browns in 1953, Hawks in 1968, NFL Cardinals in 1988 and Rams in 2016) but they never lost the MLB Cardinals. This would see Oakland lose the Golden Seals in 1976, the Raiders in 1982 and 2020, the Warriors back to San Francisco in 2019, and the As whenever this deal is done.
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I mean, depends on how obscure you want to get with teams. Providence, RI is close with 3 of the 4 sports.

NFL: Providence Steamrollers (won the NFL title in 1928, folded in 1931)
MLB: Providence Grays (won what is considered the 1st world series in 1884, folded in 1885)
NBA: Providence Steamrollers (one of the original 11 NBA teams, folded in 1949)
 
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Anisimovs AK said:
Does anyone really think a city as small as Vegas can support 81 home games in a 40k-60k stadium a season? Baseball seems like the worst sport for medium to small markets to have
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Stadium proposed is 35k.

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Visitor stats.

For the first four months of 2023, more than 3m visitors per month, max 3.655m, min 3.081m.
 
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BigBadBruins7708 said:
I mean, depends on how obscure you want to get with teams. Providence, RI is close with 3 of the 4 sports.

NFL: Providence Steamrollers (won the NFL title in 1928, folded in 1931)
MLB: Providence Grays (won what is considered the 1st world series in 1884, folded in 1885)
NBA: Providence Steamrollers (one of the original 11 NBA teams, folded in 1949)
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Oh, yeah, going real obscure, I can also get Hartford in there with 3 (the NL Hartford Dark Blues in 1876, NFL Hartford Blues in 1926, and the Whalers), and there are a bunch of cities that hit 3/4 but still have teams (Buffalo's lost NFL, NBA, and MLB teams, Brooklyn lost the Amerks, Dodgers, and a couple old NFL teams in the 20s. Philly's lost the Warriors, As, and Quakers, Kansas City lost the As, Kings, and an NFL team in 1926, for a few) but Providence and Hartford both also fit the criteria of no longer having teams at all.
 
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I know it is often framed as them "losing" the Warriors but that was always a Bay Area team rather than an Oakland team (probably a lesson for the Sharks in how they brand/market themselves but alas)
 
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As a proud Philadelphian, I'll bite my tongue on the "always a Bay Area team" bit, but yeah, them moving to San Francisco isn't the same thing as the other moves. It's still a move, though.
 
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God I would love love LOVE if this blows up in Fisher's stupid cueball-headed face.

I don't think it will but one can dream. He deserves misery of the first order.
 
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