Oakland A's to play in Sacramento for a few years while Las Vegas stadium is built

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I think I’d seen where the governor of Nevada stated over the weekend that HE would craft the legislation and wanted it done quickly. But to see the subsequent news…

…curious to say the least.

To be honest… the NFL ends up going to Jacksonville and doesn’t have to think twice about it because they are funded from national media contracts. The NBA can go into San Antonio and Salt Lake City BEFORE they are truly emerging markets. The NHL and, come on, half the Canadian markets and even some risky American ones over time indicate they can handle a smaller market now and then. Baseball, outside of a legacy market or two (the whole thing really started with Cincinnati), NEVER does that. I think there’s an obvious reason; an everyday sport needs a larger market. I don’t think we can have the same discussions about MLB like we do about other leagues. That’s mostly why Vegas only makes the barest sense to me. But that is probably also why we’ve been watching the minimum stadium size become breached on an increasing basis.
 
Abandon Vegas. Embrace Philadelphia. Come home. 69 years is a long enough vacation.

(fr, though, work it out with Oakland.)

The backup plan mentioned in the article is a few streets north at the Rio site, still in Vegas.

The Rio resort apparently offered the team 22 acres for $1.

Athletics like traffic access at their preferred plot of land better, which is also a better location right behind T-Mobile Arena. Rio site is a cheaper alternative.

I think I’d seen where the governor of Nevada stated over the weekend that HE would craft the legislation and wanted it done quickly. But to see the subsequent news…

…curious to say the least.

To be honest… the NFL ends up going to Jacksonville and doesn’t have to think twice about it because they are funded from national media contracts. The NBA can go into San Antonio and Salt Lake City BEFORE they are truly emerging markets. The NHL and, come on, half the Canadian markets and even some risky American ones over time indicate they can handle a smaller market now and then. Baseball, outside of a legacy market or two (the whole thing really started with Cincinnati), NEVER does that. I think there’s an obvious reason; an everyday sport needs a larger market. I don’t think we can have the same discussions about MLB like we do about other leagues. That’s mostly why Vegas only makes the barest sense to me. But that is probably also why we’ve been watching the minimum stadium size become breached on an increasing basis.

The backup plan written in the article is a cheaper alternative still within Vegas.

As for worry about MLB in Vegas, I wouldn't underestimate the power of 45 million tourists a year to offset any dips in Vegas attendance.
 
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I have nothing against Las Vegas but I so I hope this blows up in Fisher's entitled shithead face.
 
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On to second site?


Asking the obvious here, but how much land is "a portion"? I know they were looking at that site previously but, i thought that required demo-ing the tropicana, this sounds like they can build it and keep the hotel intact.

Looking around on google maps, if the stadium is up similar dimensions to T Mobile there is no way it could fit without significant demolition
 
Asking the obvious here, but how much land is "a portion"? I know they were looking at that site previously but, i thought that required demo-ing the tropicana, this sounds like they can build it and keep the hotel intact.

Looking around on google maps, if the stadium is up similar dimensions to T Mobile there is no way it could fit without significant demolition

The Tropicana is gonna get the dynamite.

Ironically enough a baseball team is gonna blow up a building called Tropicana but not The Rays
 
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As someone who attended both A's and Raiders games since the 70's I say F them. I only feel for the loyal fans
 
@sh724 9 acres of 34. Hotel/resort would be demolished as part of deal.


Demolishing the existing Trop, yes, but apparently the plan includes a new, smaller hotel & casino on the remainder of the site. (Which personally I would hope they also call the Tropicana, just have it be a new, smaller version, but I expect that won't be the case.)

Edit: Well, I say smaller, I suppose physically it'd have to be, but they're planning on a couple dozen more rooms in the new casino than in the Trop. Maybe they're reducing the gaming space, or more likely, the non-gaming, non-hotel entertainment.
 

Demolishing the existing Trop, yes, but apparently the plan includes a new, smaller hotel & casino on the remainder of the site. (Which personally I would hope they also call the Tropicana, just have it be a new, smaller version, but I expect that won't be the case.)

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Well, I say smaller, I suppose physically it'd have to be, but they're planning on a couple dozen more rooms in the new casino than in the Trop. Maybe they're reducing the gaming space, or more likely, the non-gaming, non-hotel entertainment.
It'll probably be Bally's. Not to be confused with the original.
 
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Does anyone really think a city as small as Vegas can support 81 home games in a 40k-60k stadium a season? Baseball seems like the worst sport for medium to small markets to have
 
There's four MLB stadiums with more than 48,000 seats.

One of them is being abandoned in Oakland.
One of them is on the replacement list (Arizona, looking for a new park)
One of them turned 30 this year (Colorado)
And the other is Dodger Stadium, in a market of like 18 million people.
 

Culinary union announced they would not support original (Wild West) site.

Tropicana workers (mainly union) getting lots of promises about jobs when stadium built.

Team looking for suspension of "entertainment tax" (similar to VGK and Raiders) and would use sales taxes from around the area to service bonds.
 

Official announcement that agreement has been reached.

HOWEVER, it also says that more negotiations need to be done before it's brought to a vote.
 
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Details
  • $180 million in funding from the state, $90 million to be repaid over the next 30 years
  • $120 million in bonds from Clark County
  • No location is specified in the deal as it currently stands

Legislation to be submitted to in the next few days.
 
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