Confirmed with Link: NYR Fire John Davidson and Jeff Gorton

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Fake news, we're going to trade Lafreniere for Messier or whatever

Kakko + 1st for Lucic lets goooooo

 

[JohnC]

So...what DEFCON do we enter when we miss the playoffs again next year and Drury is fired? 2?

 

[Jersey Girl]

Shouldn’t Gorton have at least been kept on board through the draft lottery? It’s just common sense...

 

[rangers1314]

I didn't know Carmelo Anthony played Hockey.

Can he fight?

I'm in awe of this statement.

 

[Rangerboy030]

Shouldn’t Gorton have at least been kept on board through the draft lottery? It’s just common sense...

I don't think "sense" had anything to do with this decision.

 

[Jim Ramsay]

I thought we could make the PO’s this year at the beginning, and put it at 50/50 odds. I think that we are right about where i thought we would be.

the reason i think people see this season as a failure is because how we got manhandled in crunch time. If we lost those three games against the isle but were competitive in them i dont believe people would be this upset. But we got manhandled, and showed a completel lack of anything resembling emotion from the team.

i think that is why people are so down on them. And rightly so. We didnt go down swinging. We went down like a little bitch crying and sagging our shoulders.

Well said, this is exactly how I feel.

 

[Jersey Girl]

That's the thing, though, it seems like most of the "Dolan meddling" evidence is related to the Knicks. He has handled the Rangers completely differently over the past two decades.

...until yesterday.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

It's not about forcing trades. You don't clear your entire front office out to stay the course.

This idea that Drury is going to carry the mission forward as planned is bonkers.

The owner is impatient. He's a well documented moron who can't control his emotions, and has paper thin skin.

So yeah I see why people are worried.

Worrying is fine, I'd be lying if I said that there wasn't more than a twinge of uneasyness in the back of my mind. I'm more worried about things from a "hey, they may take the Eichel leap" than I am the "OMGZ EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET TRADED FOR LUCIC/KOPITAR/TOWES/KARLSSON" angle. Just because the owner wasn't happy with the lack of action from the former GM does NOT mean he's going to meddle and force all these moves.

Also, Drury isn't taking this job if hes going to be a puppet. His management career would be dead in the water if he did that.

 

[DialUp]

Yeah you're also reading into this the way you want to read into it. The rebuild has been "done." Adding other pieces to this team doesn't mean that they're going to dump all the young players for Vets, stop it.

The expectations this year should have been playoffs. We had shit go wrong sure, but so did the teams ahead of us, some of them had much more go wrong.

For one, yes I am reading into this the way I want to. I have no shame in that, because that is what we do with limited information when *our* (the fans) stakes are so low in the matter.

Totally disagree that the expectations of this year is they should be been in the playoffs. Hard disagree. Sabre/devil level sucking? Absolutely not, but to EXPECT what we have to be BETTER than the teams ahead of us is nuts. Doesn't mean they didn't look like ass for a big portion of the year, that should be addressed.

It was the way it went down, in what *appears* to be a hissy fit rage from a man-child.

 

[CLW]

I don't like Sather back in the big picture.

Sather unleashed the gimp and got JD and Gorton fired. The Dino's won this round.

 

[DialUp]

I didn't know Carmelo Anthony played Hockey.

Can he fight?

I may disagree with your assessment of the hysterics, but this one was too good. lol!

 

[ETTER DE]

If you think most of this board was calling for Gorton's head, you don't have a finger on the pulse. People had criticisms, but you would be hard pressed to find firing posts.

This board can be bi-polar but this isn't an example.

I have wanted Gorton gone a long time. And I had a feeling it was just around the corner. A couple of months ago I wrote that JD had to fire Gorton or he would have to go with him. After watching sports for over 50 years you start to get the feel for some of these things. If it is hockey or soccer, does not really matter. People act the same all over the world. Owner wants results. When things start to stagnate, there will always be people in the organisations who want changes. Who whisper in the boss/owner ears. And from there it usually moves fast forward if the results dont improve in a short span.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

You know what? This wasn't your call. So you aren't entitled to "sufficient proof"

The Brooks article was nothing but thinly-veiled PR spin for ADA and a chance to have an exclusive scoop for LB.

If you think that DeAngelo is going to come rushing in on a white horse now that JD/G are gone, well, amazingly as it is, that wouldn't be your worst take....

All this drama for a defenseman that can't defend for shit.

 

[SRHRangers]

I didn't know Carmelo Anthony played Hockey.

Can he fight?

The evidence is that he's an owner that has interfered before on numerous occasions. And at the highest of blockbusters.

He's done it and is very capable of doing it again.

I could definitely see Dolan walking into the room while Drury is close to an Eichel deal and say what gives.

"I don't want to give up Kakko Mr. Dolan"

"f*** that guy, tell them it's a deal. Whatever they want"

 

[DutchShamrock]

...until yesterday.

I'm not trying to split hairs, but Dolan's responsibility is picking the President and upper management. He did his job, agree or disagree. He owns the team and gets to pick personnel to manage his property.

Dolan's direct impact should end there. If he forces roster decisions, trades, picks, signings, then yeah he is out of his element. We don't have evidence of him meddling with management for 20 years.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

All this drama for a defenseman that can't defend for shit.

It's not even that. The damage of bringing him back now would be immeasurable.

I also don't for a second believe that JD/G sent DeAngelo home without some sort of consent from Dolan.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Anyway for Euro's to watch the presser? YT stream?

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Anyway for Euro's to watch the presser? YT stream?

Is the presser even being broadcasted?

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Is the presser even being broadcasted?

Right, that should have been my first question. lol

 

[nyr2k2]

...until yesterday.

Understood, but as I've said, I don't think that firing one/both of JD and Gorton was a terrible decision in a vacuum. The spectacle of it all, the seeming disregard for how it would play in the media and the panic it would cause the fans, that's all Dolan. But firing the GM and President? I don't think it's crazy, and it might not be reactionary. And he's turning to Slats and Drury, two known quantities within the organization, and not going out and hiring Mark Messier to be team president and Adam Graves to be GM. Reading the tea leaves, I think Dolan had some ongoing frustrations with JD and/or Gorton and axed them in bombastic fashion; I do not see it as a return to Dolan trying to run the show.

I get why people are concerned, I do. I just don't see it as a "return to the dark ages" moment for the club. He could have done shit like I mentioned with Mess to make me feel that way, but he didn't. He fired two guys and replaced them with other, similar guys who are already here and were part of that same front office.

Worrying is fine, I'd be lying if I said that there wasn't more than a twinge of uneasyness in the back of my mind. I'm more worried about things from a "hey, they may take the Eichel leap" than I am the "OMGZ EVERYONE IS GOING TO GET TRADED FOR LUCIC/KOPITAR/TOWES/KARLSSON" angle. Just because the owner wasn't happy with the lack of action from the former GM does NOT mean he's going to meddle and force all these moves.

Also, Drury isn't taking this job if hes going to be a puppet. His management career would be dead in the water if he did that.

This is all spot-on.

 

[rangers1314]

Is the presser even being broadcasted?

MSG is showing Tennis. Doesn't look like the NYR IG is going to be live either.

Clown organization.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Sather and Drury will address media at 10:30.

Where?

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Right, that should have been my first question. lol

When they do broadcast things they do it on Twitter, FB and the Ranger site.

 

[RangersFan1994]

Sather and Drury will address media at 10:30.

will this be online or streaming for those that are working today like myself?

 

[DutchShamrock]

I have wanted Gorton gone a long time. And I had a feeling it was just around the corner. A couple of months ago I wrote that JD had to fire Gorton or he would have to go with him. After watching sports for over 50 years you start to get the feel for some of these things. If it is hockey or soccer, does not really matter. People act the same all over the world. Owner wants results. When things start to stagnate, there will always be people in the organisations who want changes. Who whisper in the boss/owner ears. And from there it usually moves fast forward if the results dont improve in a short span.

One poster, or even 1% of posters, does not equal "most of the people" here. People aren't being wishy washy. A few perhaps, but most of the people aren't complaining about the firings after calling for Gorton's head this year. That's not accurate.