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Uninstaaled said:
Still don't understand why some of you are so convinced that Dolan is going to force all these trades.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE POINTING TO THIS.
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It's conjecture based on the OG Dark Ages plus the Post reporting he is impatient, thinks we should have made the playoffs, and wants to stop the rebuild. And we are treating this as if we are the Knicks.

The scary thing is, if it is true that he thought we should have MADE the playoffs this year, then that is trouble. In no world should the playoffs this year have been a requirement. Or even next year for that matter. We won't sniff the cup with a revolving door of veterans dumped by other teams over the next decade.
 
I am glad Messier spoke with Michael Kay and semi ripped the rebuilding. I love that he said he hasn't spoke to anyone in management about the Rangers. Dolan will never hire him after yesterdays pontificating....Oh Mark...... we got Wayne Gretzky......and you are going to the Canucks....Please be quite and go back to Buddha
 
Machinehead said:
If you can't see the issues he's having this year despite the totals he's putting up, I just don't know what to tell you.

I'm glad he can put up points while being basically dead. That's certainly a skill.
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In the second half, he's been the same player. I'm not saying to keep him or sign him, just that he's been good, and putting up points is important to me. Good players do that even when some think they don't look good. It's like when a pitcher wins without his best stuff.

When your D is mostly a huge drag on a team it's hard to consistently shine. Aside from Fox and Panarin, no one has consistently shined.

Yeah, Kappo looks good, but until he does start putting up points, I'll take the guy who is putting up points every time.

That's not a slap at Kakko. He may become a consistent point-getter, and that will make him far more valuable.
 
Uninstaaled said:
Still don't understand why some of you are so convinced that Dolan is going to force all these trades.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE POINTING TO THIS.
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Yes there is.

Dolan forced the Carmelo Anthony trade and gave up more.....

Even though Donnie Walsh was 80% of the way to making it, without giving up more assets.

Dolan has definitely done things like that before.
 
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Edge said:
They do. But I guess, the best way to frame it is, that some are this amped during a season like this, in a division like ours, with a roster like ours.
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I thought everyone understood before this season that almost no one thought the Rangers would be in the playoffs. I forgot that once the season starts, it becomes a failure when they don't.

Too many fans are like Dolan.
 
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Rangerboy030 said:
No, I'm saying that the only reason why you're obsessed with ADA is because you think he's being persecuted for being a Trump supporter, and you cling to that narrative like a nervous child clinging to its mother regardless of how many times people, including those with insider knowledge, point out that he was suspended for being an insufferably shitty person.

I couldn't give less of a shit if you're a Trump supporter, I stopped caring about US politics years ago.
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I do not see sufficient proof that ADA is a terrible person, in fact Larry Brooks' article portrays him as quite a good guy. Some people a different and can be perceived by majority as a-holes, but they really are not.
 
rangers1314 said:
The trade for Carmelo Anthony is literally a perfect of example of this.
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That's the thing, though, it seems like most of the "Dolan meddling" evidence is related to the Knicks. He has handled the Rangers completely differently over the past two decades. Not to say he won't suddenly become super involved here, but he generally has not been one to get involved in hockey ops for quite some time.
 
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Kakko Schmakko said:
I do not see sufficient proof that ADA is a terrible person, in fact Larry Brooks' article portrays him as quite a good guy. Some people a different and can be perceived by majority as a-holes, but they really are not.
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Edge brought you said evidence, you are just choosing to ignore it. Just like I'm going to ignore you.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
That's the thing, though, it seems like most of the "Dolan meddling" evidence is related to the Knicks. He has handled the Rangers completely differently over the past two decades. Not to say he won't suddenly become super involved here, but he generally has not been one to get involved in hockey ops for quite some time.
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I would say his lack of involvement officially ended yesterday.
 
chosen said:
I thought everyone understood before this season that almost no one thought the Rangers would be in the playoffs. I forgot that once the season starts, it becomes a failure when they don't.

Too many fans are like Dolan.
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I thought we could make the PO’s this year at the beginning, and put it at 50/50 odds. I think that we are right about where i thought we would be.

the reason i think people see this season as a failure is because how we got manhandled in crunch time. If we lost those three games against the isle but were competitive in them i dont believe people would be this upset. But we got manhandled, and showed a completel lack of anything resembling emotion from the team.

i think that is why people are so down on them. And rightly so. We didnt go down swinging. We went down like a little bitch crying and sagging our shoulders.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
That's the thing, though, it seems like most of the "Dolan meddling" evidence is related to the Knicks. He has handled the Rangers completely differently over the past two decades. Not to say he won't suddenly become super involved here, but he generally has not been one to get involved in hockey ops for quite some time.
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And up until yesterday, Dolan didn't go postal on the Rangers organization.

He has done it in the past. He's an egotistical mental midget.

A panic trade that Dolan negotiates is definitely on the table.
 
Kakko Schmakko said:
I do not see sufficient proof that ADA is a terrible person, in fact Larry Brooks' article portrays him as quite a good guy. Some people a different and can be perceived by majority as a-holes, but they really are not.
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You know what? This wasn't your call. So you aren't entitled to "sufficient proof"

The Brooks article was nothing but thinly-veiled PR spin for ADA and a chance to have an exclusive scoop for LB.

If you think that DeAngelo is going to come rushing in on a white horse now that JD/G are gone, well, amazingly as it is, that wouldn't be your worst take....
 
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Uninstaaled said:
Still don't understand why some of you are so convinced that Dolan is going to force all these trades.

THERE IS NO EVIDENCE POINTING TO THIS.
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It's not about forcing trades. You don't clear your entire front office out to stay the course.

This idea that Drury is going to carry the mission forward as planned is bonkers.

The owner is impatient. He's a well documented moron who can't control his emotions, and has paper thin skin.

So yeah I see why people are worried.
 
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Oscar Lindberg said:
The other thing I’d love to learn more about as this story evolves is what exactly did JD and Gorton disagree with Dolan on about the statement?

Did they not like him going “over their heads” to release it? (I know he’s the owner and can do what he wants)

That is still unclear. I’m not sure I chalk it up to “well JD and Gorton didn’t have their star players back”. I don’t believe that for a second
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It's clear the NHL used Dolan to hammer JD and Gorton for climbing up on their high horses and calling out the NHL and DoPS for their hypocrisy.

If Dolan truly wrote that statement, and fired JD and Gorton for disagreement, what will happen next is that Dolan will keep exposing the NHL and the DoPS. Instead we got the gong show last night with fights everywhere at an NHL record level. Thus, it is clear it was not Dolan who wrote the Statement.

JD and Gorton tried to do the right thing, but in the heat of the battle they forgot Dolan was lurking in the shadows, the NHL sprung it's crackpot assassin and the rest is history. That mistake cost them their jobs.

So to recap:

1. JD & Gorton got fired for taking on the NHL and embarrassing the league. Dolan was that hatchet man.

2. This was not a hockey decision, because Drury is essentially Gorton 2.0 and will keep doing what Gorton was doing.

What a freaking soap opera. Well done NHL.
 
DialUp said:
It's conjecture based on the OG Dark Ages plus the Post reporting he is impatient, thinks we should have made the playoffs, and wants to stop the rebuild. And we are treating this as if we are the Knicks.

The scary thing is, if it is true that he thought we should have MADE the playoffs this year, then that is trouble. In no world should the playoffs this year have been a requirement. Or even next year for that matter. We won't sniff the cup with a revolving door of veterans dumped by other teams over the next decade.
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Yeah you're also reading into this the way you want to read into it. The rebuild has been "done." Adding other pieces to this team doesn't mean that they're going to dump all the young players for Vets, stop it.

The expectations this year should have been playoffs. We had shit go wrong sure, but so did the teams ahead of us, some of them had much more go wrong.
 
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