Confirmed with Link: NYR Fire John Davidson and Jeff Gorton

[FireGerardGallant]

Why the f*** are we talking about ADA?

Because every thread must devolve into this topic for some people who can't let go

 

[MysticLeviathan]

The move itself to promote Drury to GM isn’t a bad one. It’s the subsequent moves that scare you. You gotta be on the edge of your seat for the next few months.

 

[Machinehead]

Pens fan: I dont agree with the move you guys are close imo to be class of the division within a couple years.

I agree that the rebuild was going well but I also feel that it's moving to another phase, a lot of the best aspects of the rebuild (Fox, Lafreniere, Kakko) fell from the sky, and Gorton has handed out a number of bad contracts putting us in cap trouble before our next core can even legally drink.

Also, Drury is a star in the exec game and many teams wanted him. The Rangers may have just wanted to keep him.

The reason I'm not blowing my stack just yet (we'll see) is that I do see the rationale for a change.

 

[Rempe73]

All I'm going to say is that it's not DeAngelo being targeted for his politics.

I’m just saying...being a vocal Trump supporter certainly doesn’t help anyone. Not that that’s the reason why he’s gone.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Also, is Buchnevich89 and PavelBuchnevich the same poster?

rip

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

I really doubt the issues/disagreements were because of Eichel trade.

1. Eichel has a neck injury
2. Eichel is not a physical player
3. he is not really a great leader
4. cost too much, has too high cap space and showed signs of decline.

 

[Rempe73]

I think Edge is just tired of trying to explain what he heard out of the situation and why the Rangers did what they did. What I get out of him is that the Rangers gave DeAngelo chances and DeAngelo kept burning them until that was the end.

I also think some team will give him another chance

Yea sure but I don’t spend all day on hf. I barely read anything but the game threads sometimes. From what I’ve seen Edge post, I actually agreed with him. But I can’t read EVERYTHING he posts.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

To my knowledge, all I knew about was:

1. The Georgiev altercation
2. That he wanted to fight a fan (not a big deal to me if it didn’t happen)
3. The fact that he kept bringing up politics in the locker room (which I thought he stopped)
4. That he’s a 45 supporter

I thought Gorton was being a bit unfair to him. AND, if you take into account that he’s been my favorite player since Arizona and that I admit I’m very biased towards him, you can kind of see why I have the opinion I do, no? If you can’t, then I have nothing else to say.

Anyone can have an opinion. I'm just pointing out there was much more than just the Georgiev alteraction and a lot of the stuff that happened, we aren't aware of but with Gorton and JD openly saying he was on his final warning just points to there being a bunch of issues that led up to that incident that turned out to be the final straw

 

[Rempe73]

rip

Rent free

 

[haveandare]

I agree that the rebuild was going well but I also feel that it's moving to another phase, a lot of the best aspects of the rebuild (Fox, Lafreniere, Kakko) fell from the sky, and Gorton has handed out a number of bad contracts putting us in cap trouble before our next core can even legally drink.

Also, Drury is a star in the exec game and many teams wanted him. The Rangers may have just wanted to keep him.

The reason I'm not blowing my stack just yet (we'll see) is that I do see the rationale for a chance.

Honestly, just firing Gorton and replacing him with Drury wouldn’t bother me much at all. I think Gortons done a pretty good job but I have faith in Drury and sometimes you need to promote a super promising young guy to keep them. It’s understandable imo.

But firing JD too, letting Drury be president, and doing it with 3 games left at the same time as this Wilson stuff is super alarming.

 

[Rempe73]

Anyone can have an opinion. I'm just pointing out there was much more than just the Georgiev alteraction and a lot of the stuff that happened, we aren't aware of but with Gorton and JD openly saying he was on his final warning just points to there being a bunch of issues that led up to that incident that turned out to be the final straw

Forgive me for maybe not trusting Gorton 100% to make the right call.

 

[Richard Banger]

I agree that the rebuild was going well but I also feel that it's moving to another phase, a lot of the best aspects of the rebuild (Fox, Lafreniere, Kakko) fell from the sky, and Gorton has handed out a number of bad contracts putting us in cap trouble before our next core can even legally drink.

Also, Drury is a star in the exec game and many teams wanted him. The Rangers may have just wanted to keep him.

The reason I'm not blowing my stack just yet (we'll see) is that I do see the rationale for a chance.

I’m right there with you. Like it makes some sense . As long as Quinn is also gone. I think bringing in a whole new staff and office could be good since it’s not about a rebuild anymore but more like a build on phase and for that you need the right personnel

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Honestly, just firing Gorton and replacing him with Drury wouldn’t bother me much at all. I think Gortons done a pretty good job but I have faith in Drury and sometimes you need to promote a super promising young guy to keep them. It’s understandable imo.

But firing JD too, letting Drury be president, and doing it with 3 games left at the same time as this Wilson stuff is super alarming.

Plus Dolan is a crazy person

Awful day all around

 

[Machinehead]

Honestly, just firing Gorton and replacing him with Drury wouldn’t bother me much at all. I think Gortons done a pretty good job but I have faith in Drury and sometimes you need to promote a super promising young guy to keep them. It’s understandable imo.

But firing JD too, letting Drury be president, and doing it with 3 games left at the same time as this Wilson stuff is super alarming.

Right. I think Gorton going may have been a hockey move.

JD going definitely feels like an internal riff whether it was related to the statement or JD not agreeing on Gorton.

 

[Edge]

I’m just saying...being a vocal Trump supporter certainly doesn’t help anyone. Not that that’s the reason why he’s gone.

Fox is a very known Republican, it wasn't an issue.

Lemieux was a known Republican, wasn't an issue.

Members of the coaching staff are Republican.

Members of the front office are Republican.

The owner of the damn team is a Republican.

The line was always his politics were never an issue and his personality wasn't either. Not until ADA insisted on making it an issue. Repeatedly.

 

[Vito Andolini]

Honestly, just firing Gorton and replacing him with Drury wouldn’t bother me much at all. I think Gortons done a pretty good job but I have faith in Drury and sometimes you need to promote a super promising young guy to keep them. It’s understandable imo.

But firing JD too, letting Drury be president, and doing it with 3 games left at the same time as this Wilson stuff is super alarming.

I agree. It's not so much the firing Gorton that bothers me...it's the entire situation. It's James Dolan all the sudden taking a strong interest in the team....this is not good. We went from a team that had a clear direction with very competent leadership...to being whatever mess we are now in. It's TBD and it shouldn't be.

 

[DutchShamrock]

3 seasons with no playoffs with a team that has had playoff success for a while is enough to get a GM fired. I know it’s a rebuild but at some point you need to see significant progress.

I was seeing red flags with Gorton, but a shortened season, 4 spots in a difficult division, Zibanejad a no show for half a season, Panarin, ADA. This probably isn't the time you put your foot down.

I'm not in the room, so I can only speculate. This was a rash decision. Ego move after a thumping? Employees telling you they think you're wrong? This is like the exit interviews suddenly tanking Torts. Or AV blaming everyone before the last game of the season. There are hockey decisions and then there are emotional ones.

 

[Rempe73]

Fox is a very known Republican, it wasn't an issue.

Lemieux was a known Republican, wasn't an issue.

Members of the coaching staff are Republican.

Members of the front office are Republican.

The owner of the damn team is a Republican.

The line was always his politics were never an issue and his personality wasn't either. Not until ADA insisted on making it an issue. Repeatedly.

Key word here is vocal, i.e. talking about it constantly, which I don’t like either. Again, do you not remember me agreeing with you?

 

[mas0764]

I think the people who want those things aren't taking into account it's going to be a push for more than.

It likely won't be as simple as getting tougher. There's going to be a desire for instant gratification here and it's going to include the potential pursuit of big ticket names at the cost of very promising young talent. And not necessarily in a measured approach.

I just don’t understand. This team is gonna be in the playoffs next year. Get rid of the dead weight and this team will be in very good shape.

I don’t get it.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

Fox is a very known Republican, it wasn't an issue.

Lemieux was a known Republican, wasn't an issue.

Members of the coaching staff are Republican.

Members of the front office are Republican.

The owner of the damn team is a Republican.

The line was always his politics were never an issue and his personality wasn't either. Not until ADA insisted on making it an issue. Repeatedly.

Who are the Democrats on the team?

 

[Richard Banger]

I was seeing red flags with Gorton, but a shortened season, 4 spots in a difficult division, Zibanejad a no show for half a season, Panarin, ADA. This probably isn't the time you put your foot down.

I'm not in the room, so I can't only speculate. This was a rash decision. Ego move after a thumping? Employees telling you they think you're wrong? This is like the exit interviews suddenly tanking Torts. Or AV blaming everyone before the last game of the season. There are hockey decisions and then there are emotional ones.

There could be a lot of things happening behind the scenes. A good example was the Brady Belichek rift between them for years without anyone outside the org knowing.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Rangers need to look at the more balanced teams and figure out how they can be like them. I wish JD was kept. Maybe even Gorton but this team is not winning anything in the playoffs if they are tissue paper soft. Talent and skill is important but something is clearly missing. It shows on the ice.

 

[Richard Banger]

Who are the Democrats on the team?

Who the f*** cares dude

 

[Miamipuck]

Who are the Democrats on the team?

They were just fired.

 

[duhmetreE]

 

[Miamipuck]

Who the f*** cares dude

This really.