Proposal: NYR-BUF

[wafflepadsave]

Point being a star plus coming back. No 4 middle six players. Kakko has not impressed at all. Kings have much better futures to offer.

But only if they’re offering them.

 

[Blitz]

Rangers arent desperate for Eichel. Franchise centers also arent usually unhappy because the franchise they play for is a disaster. If he demands a trade that is also uncharted territory. Sabre fans are going to be in for a rude awakening with the return the get if and when he is traded.

See that's the thing about a legally binding contract w a NMC the agent actually fought to get - he can demand out until he's blue in the face & they dont HAVE to do anything to facilitate it. Play here or dont play.

Unless the return is absolutely incredible, he's a Sabre for the foreseeable future.

 

[Flan the incredible]

See that's the thing about a legally binding contract w a NMC the agent actually fought to get - he can demand out until he's blue in the face & they dont HAVE to do anything to facilitate it. Play here or dont play.

Unless the return is absolutely incredible, he's a Sabre for the foreseeable future.

See thats the thing about treating players badly. If a guy wants out franchises really dont have a choice. See Columbus as an example. Things can get really really ugly. You also think free agents aren't going to see that and factor that into their decision making process? Good bye free agents and your current players probably won't want to be there either with that atmosphere. Locker room would be awful. If he demands a trade 100% he is traded.

Not saying the Sabres should take just anything but if and I say IF he asks out ownership doesn't really have a choice.

 

[Vitto79]

Honestly that Buffalo roster is a mess so trading Eichel is for the best but if he’s hurt the values going down

rangers offer of Chytil , Buchnevich , Georgiev , Robertson, 1st

no way you deal Laf or Kakko and I’d say no to Miller

 

[BananaSquad]

Honestly that Buffalo roster is a mess so trading Eichel is for the best but if he’s hurt the values going down

rangers offer of Chytil , Buchnevich , Georgiev , Robertson, 1st

no way you deal Laf or Kakko and I’d say no to Miller

Is it really that much of a mess or is it coaching? Again Buffalo doesn’t need to just trade Jack to the Rangers lol

 

[Team Cozens]

Honestly that Buffalo roster is a mess so trading Eichel is for the best but if he’s hurt the values going down

rangers offer of Chytil , Buchnevich , Georgiev , Robertson, 1st

no way you deal Laf or Kakko and I’d say no to Miller

Or we wait till Eichel is better and also wait till we get the offer we need. Rangers just don't have the assets that it will take. Teams like the Kings or Ducks have the assets to make a deal work plus sending Jack out West makes a ton of sense from an NHL marketing perspective as well.

 

[Vitto79]

Is it really that much of a mess or is it coaching? Again Buffalo doesn’t need to just trade Jack to the Rangers lol

Doesn’t have to be NYR they just make sense

when I skim threw that roster who’s got value ? Reinhart , Dahlin , Cozens, Oleoffson who they should keep

Risto is tradeable . Miller and Montaur are not playing well

Skinner and Okposo are terrible contracts

Staal will get dealt but just for picks. Other UFAs are meh

maybe Eakin can go since he wins faceoffs

Middlestad needs a chance of scenery
Thompson is a big boy but hasn’t done much

no goalie , both ufa too
it’s not good

 

[Flash20]

Ya'd end up selling nothing at a garage sale with that attitude. An extended Mark Stone returned Brannstrom and a 2nd. By the same logic, Stone is the best player in that trade and they trade a dollar for a quarter and a dime!

You do understand that was a sign and trade ?

 

[Panthaz89]

I actually posted that in another thread. Used Matthew's as an example. It would obviously have to be Dahlin, Cozens, Quinn and Reinhart as that would be fair value. Matthews is also a much better player. Sabre fans obviously wouldnt reply.

Dahlin's value is incredibly high you two really don't have clue.....like really? Dahlin's production dwarfs theses guys he's one of the top young Defenseman in the game and he's not even going to be 21 until April. He's not like any of those pieces mentioned on either team. Unlike Lafreniere and Kappo he's had pretty stable production at an NHL level.

 

[Panthaz89]

I like how most of the justification for trading Eichel for significantly less is that the Sabres organization seems to want other teams to give them handouts while they give them elite players. Unlike O'Reily Eichel is the biggest selling point to the fans every game.....what mind boggling moron would trade him for simply a few good players?

 

[JT Kreider]

You do understand that was a sign and trade ?

It was actually a trade and sign, there is a big difference.

I don't think Stone signing a contract after the fact really had any impact on the return Ottawa got.

 

[Hasekperreault23]

Honestly that Buffalo roster is a mess so trading Eichel is for the best but if he’s hurt the values going down

rangers offer of Chytil , Buchnevich , Georgiev , Robertson, 1st

no way you deal Laf or Kakko and I’d say no to Miller

Than no trade I mean cmon dude.Your not get a 1c for players you don't want I mean shit I can't blame you lol.eichel is locked up for 7 more years at 24 no way they are dealing him

 

[AirGut]

Than no trade I mean cmon dude.Your not get a 1c for players you don't want I mean shit I can't blame you lol.eichel is locked up for 7 more years at 24 no way they are dealing him

Don't put your trust into a rookie GM to make a good move with a shitshow of a FO behind him

 

[Flash20]

It was actually a trade and sign, there is a big difference.

I don't think Stone signing a contract after the fact really had any impact on the return Ottawa got.

He signed that massive contract 4 days later his agent Obviously got permission to get the numbers together before the trade

And let's not forget he was a UFA

So the two are not comparable

 

[Flash20]

Honestly that Buffalo roster is a mess so trading Eichel is for the best but if he’s hurt the values going down

rangers offer of Chytil , Buchnevich , Georgiev , Robertson, 1st

no way you deal Laf or Kakko and I’d say no to Miller

Lmao I'm done

 

[Flash20]

Ranger fans oh we want your franchise center here take our "ok players"

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

this basically stamps that buffalo is a bottom feeder for the next 10 years

the talent drop off from eichel to kakko/strome/chytil is steep and I would rather have a line of one A+ player and two Cs vs a line of three B grade players.


look at what crosby did with guys like dupuis and sheary. look at what mcdavid did for kassian when his career was almost dead. even kopitar has spent years doing it with little help on the wings and even brought Dustin browns career back when it looked like he was toast

Did you really just compare Eichel to Crosby, McDavid & Kopitar? Lol. Eichel has a lot more to prove.

ATM he's a modern day Rick Nash.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Or we wait till Eichel is better and also wait till we get the offer we need. Rangers just don't have the assets that it will take. Teams like the Kings or Ducks have the assets to make a deal work plus sending Jack out West makes a ton of sense from an NHL marketing perspective as well.

LAF
Kakko
Fox
Miller
Shesterkin

Etc...

Come on now. The Rangers have plenty of pieces if they really want Eichel.

MODS lock it up already.

 

[jay from jersey]

Or we wait till Eichel is better and also wait till we get the offer we need. Rangers just don't have the assets that it will take. Teams like the Kings or Ducks have the assets to make a deal work plus sending Jack out West makes a ton of sense from an NHL marketing perspective as well.

ducks are in the middle of a full blown rebuild. They have penny pinching ownership, and Internal cap, and some bad contracts to get off the books. If they were going to make a run at Eichel, they wouldn’t be looking to move guys like Rakell, Manson, etc. the only real vets your going to see on the ducks are guys like Gibson or Lindholm. Guys with sweetheart deals. The business side of the NHL takes them out of the Eichel race at this current time. No way they would offer a prospect like Zergas, with years of cheap play and contract control at this current juncture.
The teams where and who can trade for Eichel is a lot smaller then you think. Ottawa, AnA, etc and many other teams would love to add him. But assets wise, salary wise, ownership wise etc make the group that can afford to trade for him, and eat 10 mill a year for 6 with a NMC a lot smaller then most Buff fans want to believe. Say 3-4 teams max, and they all know each other and what they have to offer. In the end most likely NYR, LA, CBJ?? What other teams are looking to add Eichel as a final piece with cap room and assets and ownership willing to take on the salary in this economic climate ??

 

[bleedblue94]

It was actually a trade and sign, there is a big difference.

I don't think Stone signing a contract after the fact really had any impact on the return Ottawa got.

It absolutely did, at the time of the deal and contract it was widely reported that the only reason ott got branstrom was bc of the contract extension agreement. Stone and vegas didn't negotiate that contract in 2 mins after he was dealt...

 

[Team Cozens]

ducks are in the middle of a full blown rebuild. They have penny pinching ownership, and Internal cap, and some bad contracts to get off the books. If they were going to make a run at Eichel, they wouldn’t be looking to move guys like Rakell, Manson, etc. the only real vets your going to see on the ducks are guys like Gibson or Lindholm. Guys with sweetheart deals. The business side of the NHL takes them out of the Eichel race at this current time. No way they would offer a prospect like Zergas, with years of cheap play and contract control at this current juncture.
The teams where and who can trade for Eichel is a lot smaller then you think. Ottawa, AnA, etc and many other teams would love to add him. But assets wise, salary wise, ownership wise etc make the group that can afford to trade for him, and eat 10 mill a year for 6 with a NMC a lot smaller then most Buff fans want to believe. Say 3-4 teams max, and they all know each other and what they have to offer. In the end most likely NYR, LA, CBJ?? What other teams are looking to add Eichel as a final piece with cap room and assets and ownership willing to take on the salary in this economic climate ??

Money goes both ways and teams can absolutely find 10 million to add an elite 1C. Flames, Bruins Canadiens and Sharks can all be added to the list with money coming back. I’d say it’s closer to 10 legit teams.

 

[Section32]

Dahlin's value is incredibly high you two really don't have clue.....like really? Dahlin's production dwarfs theses guys he's one of the top young Defenseman in the game and he's not even going to be 21 until April. He's not like any of those pieces mentioned on either team. Unlike Lafreniere and Kappo he's had pretty stable production at an NHL level.

I realize that a significant portion of the Ranger's posters here can get away with some idiocy. However, these "odd" times have effected them on paper. You just fail to watch the games.

Kakko is a different player than last year- even though he has played 10 games last due to covid.

Lafreniere had no preseason and is clearer hurt by the coach.

The Rangers are still loaded with prospects.

I personally see Eich out of the conference.

But sheesh, they would have options like Nils Lundkvist, Schneider, Kravstov, Pajumania, Roberston and Jones.

If they chose so, an exceptable package could be agreed upon.

I do feel for you guys.

 

[jay from jersey]

Money goes both ways and teams can absolutely find 10 million to add an elite 1C. Flames, Bruins Canadiens and Sharks can all be added to the list with money coming back. I’d say it’s closer to 10 legit teams.

Not one of those teams have better prospect pools then rangers or kings

 

[Hasekperreault23]

Don't put your trust into a rookie GM to make a good move with a shitshow of a FO behind him

Very true fair point

 

[Team Cozens]

Not one of those teams have better prospect pools then rangers or kings

Who said it had to be just prospects?? That’s an assumption. From the Flames it would start with Tkachuk. Canadiens it would be Suzuki. Sharks it would be Hertl.... Truly doubt Sabres are looking to tear it down. What does a prospect pool matter if teams don’t want to give up their good prospects. Lol. Ducks won’t trade Zegras, Rangers apparently won’t trade Laf. So doubt it becomes a prospect trade unless it’s with the Kings.