Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYR] Adam Fox signs extension with the Rangers (7 years, $9.5M AAV)

[TGWL]

That sums up what he thinks about his teammates during yesterdays game.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

That's a good prank to do if someone is pissed off and don't feel like talking lol... just pretend there are technical difficulties haha

(Not implying that's what he's doing)

 

[Idlerlee]

Fox is unbelievable and certainly worth it; but I think it's pretty bad GM work to not get a bigger discount.

This guy forced his way onto your team, clearly has no interest in playing anywhere else, so he has ZERO leverage. It's not like you risk losing the player by driving a hard bargain.

Except his signature?

 

[CaptainBenn]

Or again, you use your negotiation skills as an executive (that you’d hopefully have) to convince him that if he wants to stay here so badly for the next 7 years that it’s in his best interest to give more of a discount so we can build another team. Otherwise he might spend the next 7 years in limbo like they have been for a long time now.

I guess the NYR haven’t been great at negotiating discounts for a while though. Luckily for them they keep getting good players who only want to play for them

you are so good at negotiating you should be an agent for the nhl bro

 

[Idlerlee]

Or again, you use your negotiation skills as an executive (that you’d hopefully have) to convince him that if he wants to stay here so badly for the next 7 years that it’s in his best interest to give more of a discount so we can build another team. Otherwise he might spend the next 7 years in limbo like they have been for a long time now.

I guess the NYR haven’t been great at negotiating discounts for a while though. Luckily for them they keep getting good players who only want to play for them

This is the worst negotiation argument I've seen put forward since I heard a drunk guy argue that he wanted to pay double for his beer in a pub in '05

I'm sure that sounds logical, but man you can't tell your star signing that you believe so little in the team or the project that he needs to help out so much that he earns significantly less over his career compared to comparable NHL players.

 

[nbwingsfan]

This is the worst negotiation argument I've seen put forward since I heard a drunk guy argue that he wanted to pay double for his beer in a pub in '05

I'm sure that sounds logical, but man you can't tell your star signing that you believe so little in the team or the project that he needs to help out so much that he earns significantly less over his career compared to comparable NHL players.

Not “help out so much” just when a guy wants to be here so bad, why not try to push for a bigger discount, giving him a chance to win more? No one wants to toil around in purgatory like the NYR have been for basically an eternity

 

[MELANDRONI]

Steep price to pay for a whole lot of secondary PP assists.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

You gotta pay up for the foxy name.

 

[RickChartraw]

Steep price to pay for a whole lot of secondary PP assists.

just curious, what contract would you have offered him?

 

[MELANDRONI]

just curious, what contract would you have offered him?

$6m max, a $100 gift card to Little Caesars, and a 1 team NMC.

 

[Kocur Dill]

Steep price to pay for a whole lot of secondary PP assists.

Yeah, well, you don't need to go any further back than the secondary assist on the Panarin/Zibanejad goal vs Vancouver the other night.

He made the defender at the blue line look foolish.

He does that every game.

 

[MELANDRONI]

Yeah, well, you don't need to go any further back than the secondary assist on the Panarin/Zibanejad goal vs Vancouver the other night.

He made the defender at the blue line look foolish.

He does that every game.

I understand he does it every game. On the powerplay, he passes the puck, then that guy passes the puck to another guy, then that guy scores.

I'm not hating - I think every young D-man out there should emulate his game. Make 1 simple ice-width pass every game, get the apple, then get 9.5 milly.

 

[tapi]

Just keep in mind the Canes basically let this guy go for free.

 

[HFBS]

This guys a gem, unless your a flames or canes fan. He probably could've gotten 11M, 23 year old norris winner. I'm truly jealous.

Unlike many others here, you actually admit it instead of inventing dopey arguments that the Rangers made a bad deal.

 

[Guttersniped]

Not “help out so much” just when a guy wants to be here so bad, why not try to push for a bigger discount, giving him a chance to win more? No one wants to toil around in purgatory like the NYR have been for basically an eternity

A few teams have a more stringent internal cap but GMs have to set that up and stick with it.

Trouba got 8m in 2019 so anyone arguing Fox is going to take that same amount for a contract that starts four years later, after he wins the Norris Trophy, is nuts.

And he’s for sure worth a lot more than that, elite players are typically underpaid because of how the cap system works. Non-elite middling players who make less then 9.5m but still make a lot, while not remotely being worth their contracts, are where GMs go to die. It’s not elite players’ job to take a bigger hit because GMs are bad at their jobs and have a habit of overpaying lousier players. You want to win? Do better cap management.

This deal is 7 years long, it will look even better when the cap finally jumps up after escrow is worked out. It’s not like he squeezed them for +11m and only signed for 5 years *cough*. (I say this as someone who f***ing hates the Rangers.)

 

[jay from jersey]

I understand he does it every game. On the powerplay, he passes the puck, then that guy passes the puck to another guy, then that guy scores.

I'm not hating - I think every young D-man out there should emulate his game. Make 1 simple ice-width pass every game, get the apple, then get 9.5 milly.

You have no idea what your talking about.....
Look at these average passes when the game is on the line....
Keep drinking that Hater-aide and pretending link fox isn’t in the same realm as McAvoy/Makar, let alone all the other D who signed monster deals this offseason.
Fox is Elite. Worth every penny. Full stop.

 

[Reggiet2]

This contract is going to look real bad when this 5'8 defenseman gets checked by Matt Martin in about a month. Fox is good when he is playing the bad teams but as soon as he plays against the big boys he gets brutallized!!!

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

This contract is going to look real bad when this 5'8 defenseman gets checked by Matt Martin in about a month. Fox is good when he is playing the bad teams but as soon as he plays against the big boys he gets brutallized!!!

Pretty weird that the Islanders and Rangers didn't play each other over the last 2 years.

 

[Reggiet2]

Pretty weird that the Islanders and Rangers didn't play each other over the last 2 years.

They have played and Fox GETS BRUTALIZED!!!

 

[Reggiet2]

The Munchkin defenseman gets his @SS wupped when playing against big rough teams like the Caps, Isles, Bruins, etc... Definitely overpayed the SECONDARY assist king!!

 

[RoyalDuder]

Lot of unhinged kids crawling out of the gutters towards the end of this thread.

 

[Reggiet2]

Lot of unhinged kids crawling out of the gutters towards the end of this thread.

And here you are!!

 

[The S5]

Steep price to pay for a whole lot of secondary PP assists.

Tell me you have no idea what you are talking about without telling me you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[The S5]

I understand he does it every game. On the powerplay, he passes the puck, then that guy passes the puck to another guy, then that guy scores.

I'm not hating - I think every young D-man out there should emulate his game. Make 1 simple ice-width pass every game, get the apple, then get 9.5 milly.

It's so easy, all the kids are doing it!

 

[MELANDRONI]

You have no idea what your talking about.....
Look at these average passes when the game is on the line....
Keep drinking that Hater-aide and pretending link fox isn’t in the same realm as McAvoy/Makar, let alone all the other D who signed monster deals this offseason.
Fox is Elite. Worth every penny. Full stop.

I didn't say anything about other D lol? He's just a good - not great - player who is now overpaid.
If you want to see a real laser pass by him, check out the one to Panarin the other night vs Vancouver. Tape to tape all day baby.

Tell me you have no idea what you are talking about without telling me you have no idea what you are talking about.

It's so easy, all the kids are doing it!

???

Do me a favor and check to see which skater has the most secondary PP assists over this season and last. I would tell you but I don't want to spoil the surprise!

The kids aren't doing it, but they need to understand that with the man advantage, you can simply pass the puck across the ice uncontested, do nothing else, and then receive a point for doing so. If they do that, GM's are forced to throw exorbitant amounts of money at them.