Confirmed with Link: NYR Acquire Jacob Trouba for Pionk and 20th Overall pick

[Ola]

Mindboggling why Jets wouldn't allow teams to speak to Trouba and his agent.

There is only one explanation to it, they don't think the outcome would be favorable for them. I.e. that he would let many teams know that he would consider resigning with them.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Because he's available now

And is only 25.

 

[Edge]

Sorry if this was posted, but found it interesting:

That makes it sounds like Trouba wants to be here, and getting an extension done might not be quite as painful as some fear. I'm not saying he'll take a Shattenkirk deal, but I don't think there will be an protracted, belabored negations.

That makes a lot of sense logically.

 

[Off Sides]

i think you are worrying about nothing

Well if the Rangers do sign him long term, and some team offers some over payment package prior to any clauses kicking in, what should they do?

Keep him on principle that they extended him, or make the trade?

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

Its crazy that Trouba and Lemieux will probably both have better careers than Pionk and whoever the Jets pick at 20, and the Jets took that downgrade for 20+ games of misusing Hayes and a 1st round exit.

 

[Trxjw]

Sorry if this was posted, but found it interesting:

That makes it sounds like Trouba wants to be here, and getting an extension done might not be quite as painful as some fear. I'm not saying he'll take a Shattenkirk deal, but I don't think there will be an protracted, belabored negations.

That would make complete sense and if it's true then Chevy did alright for himself. Detroit and NY are the obvious teams of course.

 

[BBKers]

Rangers were very close to a deal with The Peg for JT when he sat out a couple years ago. I mean really close. But the ask was then too rich. Patience is a virtue at times.

 

[Ola]

Sorry if this was posted, but found it interesting:

That makes it sounds like Trouba wants to be here, and getting an extension done might not be quite as painful as some fear. I'm not saying he'll take a Shattenkirk deal, but I don't think there will be an protracted, belabored negations.

Hm, couldn't we just as well not be among those teams? OTOH, those comments by Trouba to the Sun certainly didn't make it sound like he was trying to keep our expectations in shack regarding resigning here.

 

[darko]

Maybe they knew the teams would not like his answers?

Doubt it. I think it's pretty well documented how much he wants.

 

[RGY]

I just love the reaction:

 

[Bluenote13]

That makes a lot of sense logically.

You mean there was logic involved between two professionals??


Yeah but isn't it simpler and fun to say 'Gorton sure hosed Chevy, bent him over, spanked him and pwned him, foshizzle'

 

[Kaapo Cabana]

I'm confused. Maybe someone can help me.

People on the main boards are saying he will demand a lot of money next summer, but he is RFA now and not currently under contract for next season. Are they just assuming we only sign him for one year? Or like always, do the main boards just have no idea what they are talking about?

 

[Edge]

Rangers were very close to a deal with The Peg for JT when he sat out a couple years ago. I mean really close. But the ask was then too rich. Patience is a virtue at times.

The best deals are sometimes the ones you don't make.

I remember when the Rangers were literally down to the 11th hour on a Dubinsky (plus) for Mueller swap.

 

[darko]

There is only one explanation to it, they don't think the outcome would be favorable for them. I.e. that he would let many teams know that he would consider resigning with them.

But that would increase their return. Teams will give up more if they believe a player wants to talk an extension.

 

[offdacrossbar]

Sorry if this was posted, but found it interesting:

That makes it sounds like Trouba wants to be here, and getting an extension done might not be quite as painful as some fear. I'm not saying he'll take a Shattenkirk deal, but I don't think there will be an protracted, belabored negations.

this is exactly what happened.

usa kid who played in winy and wanted out. it was clear he wasn't resigning there. the local media in winy has been on this since last season. he was out.

he wanted to come here. few reasons. hes now "the guy" here. thats big. second, im sure he spoke with hayes and was told "top notch all the way". thats also big. plus the whole fiancee thing.

chevy had few option and jake held all the cards. again, chevy did pretty well here imo. he got a decent return for a guy who was going to walk and test the fa market.

we know jakes agent as hes also fasts agent. he won't sign cheap but again, would you ? answer. no.

7 yrs 7.5 per is my guess.

look, this kid a first pair matchup defender with size skating and some snarl. hell be asked to play top minutes against every teams best lines. we haven't had the guy since 27 left.

this is a big deal and a deal that was just waiting to happen.

 

[Kovalev27]

Sorry if this was posted, but found it interesting:

That makes it sounds like Trouba wants to be here, and getting an extension done might not be quite as painful as some fear. I'm not saying he'll take a Shattenkirk deal, but I don't think there will be an protracted, belabored negations.

Just saw these tweets as well glad you posted them. Sounds like his wife’s career is extremely important to them both and where she continues that career is equally as important. If you’re running in those circles there’s no better place than NY for what she wants to do. Also sounds like peg had their hands tied and he was coming here this year or next year regardless. If that’s the case they did well stay least getting their first rounder back.

Lock this guy up 8 years please. Hell of a hockey player will only get better with more ice time and more visibility.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

I'm confused. Maybe someone can help me.

People on the main boards are saying he will demand a lot of money next summer, but he is RFA now and not currently under contract for next season. Are they just assuming we only sign him for one year? Or like always, do the main boards just have no idea what they are talking about?

I think everybody just assumed he's got one year left. I was confused too. I even looked it up 4 times, nope he's RFA right now.

 

[darko]

I'm confused. Maybe someone can help me.

People on the main boards are saying he will demand a lot of money next summer, but he is RFA now and not currently under contract for next season. Are they just assuming we only sign him for one year? Or like always, do the main boards just have no idea what they are talking about?

He's RFA that could become UFA in 12 months. He wants to get paid.

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Well if the Rangers do sign him long term, and some team offers some over payment package prior to any clauses kicking in, what should they do?

Keep him on principle that they extended him, or make the trade?

Trade!

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[darko]

Because the agent and player could tell the team that Trouba wouldn't sign with them, which would lower the number of bidders and the price on the player... which... did happen, but through the Jets themselves. Now these things can easily get back-channeled.

There was an executive that said the concerns isn't if teams want Trouba, but rather if Trouba wanted you.

The last two times the Rangers had trades like this, it was for MSL and Rick Nash.... and the Rangers paid full to premium value.

That did not happen this time around, and I for one cannot believe how low the price was. Fair market value would be a young NHL that can step in, a top prospect (1st round equivalent), and a 1st, plus conditional assets if Trouba were to re-sign.

The Rangers got an absolute steal.

By letting Wings and us talk to him they could've played us against each other and increase their return.

I could easily picture Gorts saying pick #20 and Pionk and not budge since you are not letting us talk to him.

 

[Off Sides]

I'm confused. Maybe someone can help me.

People on the main boards are saying he will demand a lot of money next summer, but he is RFA now and not currently under contract for next season. Are they just assuming we only sign him for one year? Or like always, do the main boards just have no idea what they are talking about?

Yes he is currently not signed, however he has one RFA year left.

He either will sign something long term which includes that RFA year plus some number of UFA year(s)

Or he will end up one way or another on a one year deal where he can be a UFA next summer.

 

[Edge]

I think a deal gets done quickly.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Good on Chevy to not obfuscate with teams about whether he would sign there, despite not allowing teams to talk to him. He could've easily made it seem like Trouba would go to more destinations.

I think Chevy was sick of it all and did not want an EK situation.