Confirmed with Link: NYR acquire Adam McQuaid from Bruins for Kampfer, and 4th round pick

[Fitzy]

Man alive if this place loses its marbles over a move like this in August, I can’t wait to see what the season brings.

 

[NYR]

Disagree completely with all of this. You are comparing the Traverse City Prospect Tournament to the Olympics in which Countries like Canada have the best players in the world that can single handedly win games. Sheer insanity.

I never said these Tournaments werent important. Never said it nor did I imply it. Hajek had a good tournament. Howden did too. They could have terrible camps with the big club though, then what? Lindgren was just ok, but maybe he has a better camp. The team structure and system is being implemented in these guys are getting minutes with NHL Pros.

I mean who played “poorly”? Did you watch any of the games? I have watched for the last handful of years with the streams and its always bad camera angles, hard to tell who is who, and with no commentary. I have read some of the comments about how it went and there is nothing to indicate one guy played terrible, or good, to the next one. Its a PROSPECT TOURNAMENT to get more experience while being evaluated against other prospects.

McQuaid wasn’t acquired because of Traverse City. Just stop with the nonsense

My point is that it maybe on a much smaller scale but it's all the same format and that's the way it's been since the beginning of time.

Put your best players (olympics), prospects (Traverse) together and compete in a tournament.

If you suck and none of them look like men playing against boys, you're going to rethink your next move.

Playing well in Traverse and playing against fkn Ovechkin are 2 different worlds.

Chytil and Andersson maybe?
Other than that, not one single player has any business on an NHL roster right now.

The defense is a disaster especially on the right side.

No kids are ready to make the jump since they can't even dominate against other kids?

Bring in McQuaid..

 

[NYR]

This is ridiculous. Literally none of these defensman were supposed to make the jump to the NHL this year except for maybe Hajek who guess what had a really good tourny and plays the left side of defense. I didn't know Joey Keane was poised to make a jump to the nhl just the year after he was picked in the third round very impressive. Well guess not now because he didn't play great in a meanignless prospect tournament

Exactly my point and Traverse confirms that..

 

[Mac n Gs]

Exactly my point and Traverse confirms that..

Therevate also rules in place and other factors preventing prospects from playing Traverse. A lid like K’Andre Miller isn’t going to give up his college eligibility to play in a week-long prospect tournament. Kravtsov/Shestyorkin and Lundkvist aren’t going to leave the KHL and SHL to come play here.
This tournament is always skewed towards juniors kids, ECHL, and AHL players. Like others have said, kids will make their noise in training camp.

You’re really making a big deal about nothing. If they need to add players, they’ll look during preseason and scour the waiver wire, just like teams do every season.

 

[Krams]

Exactly my point and Traverse confirms that..

And everybody already knew that, including Gorton. How Traverse played out has nothing to do with the McQuaid trade.

 

[mrmovies779]

Talks are tough, Zucc knows what he wants this time.

I think in the back of his head he has a wish, he really wants to play for the Penguins. And I believe the Pens will be interested when time comes.

But not if the Rangers come up with the $$$ and years...

So basically you have no idea whats going on and are just making stuff up now as you go along.

 

[Inferno]

....sure... Not really a move worth talking about 1 way or another. Didn't give up much, got some depth. So...sure.

 

[NYR]

Therevate also rules in place and other factors preventing prospects from playing Traverse. A lid like K’Andre Miller isn’t going to give up his college eligibility to play in a week-long prospect tournament. Kravtsov/Shestyorkin and Lundkvist aren’t going to leave the KHL and SHL to come play here.
This tournament is always skewed towards juniors kids, ECHL, and AHL players. Like others have said, kids will make their noise in training camp.

You’re really making a big deal about nothing. If they need to add players, they’ll look during preseason and scour the waiver wire, just like teams do every season.

I'm not making a big deal out of anything.
Just trying to rationalize the McQuaid trade while being realistic but I'm not sure about the posters I got replies from lol.

Those above players you mentioned are completely irreverent since they won't be competing for a spot this year.

It's about this year..Who's capable of playing NHL defense for the team, this year?

Common sense says these kids aren't ready so that's why they got McQuaid.

 

[Thirty One]

Exactly my point and Traverse confirms that..

Let me see if I understand your point. None of the defensemen who were sent to Traverse City were expected to compete for a spot on the Rangers this season, so, when none of them showed they were NHL ready at Traverse City, Gorton had to make a panic move for a defenseman. Did I get that right?

 

[darko]

Death. Taxes. Machinehead meltdown.

 

[NYR]

Let me see if I understand your point. None of the defensemen who were sent to Traverse City were expected to compete for a spot on the Rangers this season, so, when none of them showed they were NHL ready at Traverse City, Gorton had to make a panic move for a defenseman. Did I get that right?

This isn't rocket science guy.
It's not a panic move but it's a backup move.

While I think the hope was for some of them to play really well and possibly earn a roster spot, they just aren't ready.
You can't just throw rookies out there and expect them to succeed or develop.

Who else is going to play?

 

[GeorgeKaplan]

This isn't rocket science guy.
It's not a panic move but it's a backup move.

While I think the hope was for some of them to play really well and possibly earn a roster spot, they just aren't ready.
You can't just throw rookies out there and expect them to succeed or develop.

Who else is going to play?

Again, none of the defensemen at Traverse were going to seriously compete for a NHL roster spot out of training camp. They have Skjei, Shattenkirk, Staal, ADA, Pionk, Smith, Claesson, and (had) Kampfer (who is now McQuaid, they didn’t and don’t need any of the kids that went to Traverse to make the team out of camp

 

[Thirty One]

This isn't rocket science guy.
It's not a panic move but it's a backup move.

While I think the hope was for some of them to play really well and possibly earn a roster spot, they just aren't ready.
You can't just throw rookies out there and expect them to succeed or develop.

Who else is going to play?

Guys who weren’t in Traverse City who they could expect to have a spot or compete for a spot in camp:
Shattenkirk
Skjei
Staal
Smith
Pionk
DeAngelo
Claesson
Kampfer
O’Gara
Gilmour

Guys who were in Traverse City who would be expected to compete:
Maybe Hajek?

So yeah, nothing to do with Traverse City.

 

[NYR]

Again, none of the defensemen at Traverse were going to seriously compete for a NHL roster spot out of training camp. They have Skjei, Shattenkirk, Staal, ADA, Pionk, Smith, Claesson, and (had) Kampfer (who is now McQuaid, they didn’t and don’t need any of the kids that went to Traverse to make the team out of camp

Thus my point but it had to be confirmed and it was..

 

[n8]

It reads as - the kids at Traverse City weren't expected to make the team but Gorton was willing to give them a few games to see if any of them would kick the door down. None did and as such, Gorton determined it would be in the organization's best interest to let the kids get more seasoning at lower levels (as in the plan he repeatedly says he is sticking to) and work their way up to possibly a mid-season call up.

McQuaid doesn't necessarily cement this as the kids can still kick the door down come training camp but this is a shrewd backup move that certain does improve the team by upgrading Kampfer who was like our 8th D on the depth charts. We upgraded our 8th Dman. He is also tougher. Praise be McQuaid if this means McLeod's service are no longer needed.

As an aside, I certainly hope he can get flipped at the TDL for something better than we sent for him but the facts remain, he has never played a full NHL season. He has broken 70 games twice in his career. Nick Holden posted 82 and 80 games with us prior to the season he was traded and pretty sure he played just about every game he was healthy for that season as well so Holden (this is so odd typing it) was a more established NHL top 6 player. Not so sure we'll get a 3rd for McQuaid is my point in this digression.

TLDR: safe back up depth move by Gorton. Whether this pans out remains to be seen.

 

[Mac n Gs]

I'm not making a big deal out of anything.
Just trying to rationalize the McQuaid trade while being realistic but I'm not sure about the posters I got replies from lol.

Those above players you mentioned are completely irreverent since they won't be competing for a spot this year.

It's about this year..Who's capable of playing NHL defense for the team, this year?

Common sense says these kids aren't ready so that's why they got McQuaid.

You literally explained why Traverse is irrelevant for the team this season. What kids besides Hajek, who’s an LD and has nothing to do with McQuaid, even had a chance to sniff the roster? Lindgren just finished his D+2 year and isn’t good enough to jump from college to the NHL. Gross and Keane just got drafted. Crawley is D+1 overager that was an AHLer last year. Sean Day is a project that needs a ton of work.
So who exactly did you expect to be in contention out of that group? Derek Pratt and Tyson Helgelson?

They got McQuaid as an upgrade over Kampfer. It literally had nothing to do with how Traverse City went. It’s just a really weird statement from you.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Exactly my point and Traverse confirms that..

But this was known by everyone, including Gorton, before Traverse. Todays trade literally has nothing to do with the tournament. The only player on defense that played on the tournament and has a chance of making it was Hajek and hes had a good tournament and plays left defense so it has nothing to do with McQuaid.

 

[NYR]

Guys who weren’t in Traverse City who they could expect to have a spot or compete for a spot in camp:
Shattenkirk
Skjei
Staal
Smith
Pionk
DeAngelo
Claesson
Kampfer
O’Gara
Gilmour

Guys who were in Traverse City who would be expected to compete:
Maybe Hajek?

So yeah, nothing to do with Traverse City.

That bottom 7 is atrocious but we're talking about prospects possibly making the big game.

Hajek, Lindgren?

It didn't work out so they needed reinforcements..

 

[NYR]

You literally explained why Traverse is irrelevant for the team this season. What kids besides Hajek, who’s an LD and has nothing to do with McQuaid, even had a chance to sniff the roster? Lindgren just finished his D+2 year and isn’t good enough to jump from college to the NHL. Gross and Keane just got drafted. Crawley is D+1 overager that was an AHLer last year. Sean Day is a project that needs a ton of work.
So who exactly did you expect to be in contention out of that group? Derek Pratt and Tyson Helgelson?

They got McQuaid as an upgrade over Kampfer. It literally had nothing to do with how Traverse City went. It’s just a really weird statement from you.

You guys are wearing me down lol.

I think I've explained myself enough for a night.

Traverse very much counts whether you want to believe it or not..

 

[Hire Sather]

I don't care that Adam McQuaid may 'stick up for his teammates' but I do care that he is now one of the best 6 defenseman on the team.

Fine with the move. Maybe the stupid fighting bullshit will at least keep McLeod, one of the worst players to ever wear our great uniform, out of the lineup.

 

[NYR]

But this was known by everyone, including Gorton, before Traverse. Todays trade literally has nothing to do with the tournament. The only player on defense that played on the tournament and has a chance of making it was Hajek and hes had a good tournament and plays left defense so it has nothing to do with McQuaid.

Bullshit

 

[neelynugs]

Does anyone know the condition on the 7th rounder?

wondering this as well - anyone see anything?

best of luck to mcquaid with the rangers. great bruin for many years.
i know not everyone is into grit and character, but this guy will stand
up for any teammate and eventually get you a 3rd rounder at the deadline.
also underrated as a defenseman - he can play a regular shift and not kill you.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Bull****

Like @Mac n Gs said Gross and Keane literally just got drafted, Day has been considered a project since the day he was drafted, and no one thought lindgren would be ready for this year. Only one with a chance is Hajek and for the third time he doesn't play the same side as McQuaid. This useless tournament has nothing to do this. If anything this trade was a kampfer upgrade for if Ada or pionk arent ready.

 

[Tob]

Bull****

 

[Tob]

Gorton sat through the deadline, post game 82 shuffle, entry draft, free agency, all of July - August and Traverse City Tournament is where he loses all sense of control and goes shopping for Adam McQuaid.