Rumor: Nylander like Matthews unextended. Nothing to see here.

[Willchel Marlynder]

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Yeah but Matthews plays Selke level defense. Did you see how he shut down Denault in the playoffs ?

 

[notDatsyuk]

But he is though, because he doesn't have the 2 rockets, or the MVP, or the Ted Lindsay, or the rookie of the year, he's not a borderline hall of fame talent right now like Matthews is.

I love Nylander and want him to stay, I think he's worth 9.5 million, that's probably the max I would give him but I would give him that.

But his career high in goals is a dissapointment for Matthewx

Matthews scored 40 and people are saying he had a bad year. which is stupid but shows the caliber of player Matthews is and why I say give him whatever he wants.

Nylander scores 40 and people are amazed, they shouldn't be because he was always that good but they are.

Again I love Nylander and want him to stay but they aren't the same and there is no argument that they are.

Remember that Matty scored 27 at even strength, playing with one of the best set-up men in the league and our best LW.

Willy scored 31 at even strength, dragging around a slow center and whoever on LW.

If Matty is looking for 13-15, I'm not surprised that Willy would like 10-11. I think 9-9.5 would be more than reasonable.

 

[thewave]

I buy that. Just because Toronto hasn't been successful in the playoffs doesn't mean that greed is the only thing everyone cares about.

Your theory used to carry weight when Toronto was post-JFJ era. Then the Burke/Kessel/Dion era. Those teams won nothing and yet disgruntled fans screamed "greedy ownership doesn't want to win".

I am not saying that this ownership group didn't do what they did to become a treadmill team. I think they 100% set out to win but now realize the mistake and can't rock the boat or face losses as people tune out during a rebuild or what not.

 

[supermann_98]

Im beginning to legit hate our greedy core 4

According to TSN hockey insider Darren Dreger, William Nylander is asking for $10 million to $11 million per year from the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Darren Dreger on the number of players waiting to be dealt & the complication of a decision on Nylander - TSN.ca

TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger joined the OverDrive guys earlier today and got into a number of things including the number of high-profile players waiting to get traded & what he makes of the situation facing William Nylander and the Leafs.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

In all honesty, it's in Nylander's best interest to play hardball with the Leafs and possibly even force a trade. Why stay? What has this team accomplished?

Wouldn't he be better off going somewhere where he gets the hell away from Tavares? Somewhere where he's not the automatic whipping boy? Somewhere where he gets to be on PP1 as he rightfully should?

Regardless of where he goes, he'll get his money. He may even get to go to a team where the offence runs through him and he's not so far down in the pecking order.

 

[nuck]

Expiring contract for expiring contract ...

So Pesce or nothing I just checked cap friendly for D and didn't find anyone else but perhaps a forward. Otherwise it has to be more than one transaction to get the most for him from a team that thinks he is their problem solver and then to buy the cost controlled bits to take advantage of the cap savings. The knock I have on Pesce is the Carolina affect because the system seems to make most of their players look like defensive beasts so he might not be the stud we hope. Somewhat better than Justin Holl though and I don't see him cost $9M+ a year to re-up.

 

[thewave]

Im beginning to legit hate our greedy core 4

Hate your greedy and very incompetent ownership group more. Believe me. They are the enablers, the head of the snake if you will.

 

[IPS]

Can we just get it over with and rename the Toronto Maple Leafs into the Toronto ATM Machines?

 

[ULF_55]

Though to be fair Michael Nylander has asserted the agent agreed to the deal without confirming with him first.

Paul Harvey said it best, "and now you know the rest of the story."

 

[the Mighty Oak]

Remember that Matty scored 27 at even strength, playing with one of the best set-up men in the league and our best LW.

Willy scored 31 at even strength, dragging around a slow center and whoever on LW.

If Matty is looking for 13-15, I'm not surprised that Willy would like 10-11. I think 9-9.5 would be more than reasonable.

Matthews and Marner got all the prime scoring opportunities. ice time wise also.

 

[Mess]

You know what they say about something that isn't on paper ... rip it up and throw it away.

Can't officially register extensions until tomorrow July 1st, so any agreements today between Willy or Auston for that matter are only as good as the paper they're written on.

Like father like son, and history has a way of repeating itself ..

With Nylander I would let this play out into July and beyond.

 

[supermann_98]

Hate your greedy and very incompetent ownership group more. Believe me. They are the enablers, the head of the snake if you will.

I do, trust me

 

[Stephen]

You're kinda proving why players like Matthews, Marner and Nylander should go after every dollar and every player friendly clause they can get. It's a business. And when you no longer have leverage, you're expendable and you will be treated like cattle.

That’s the reality of the game though. Look at Reilly Smith. Golden Misfit to cup winner to Pittsburgh Penguin.

 

[hockeywiz542]

What we’re hearing about Auston Matthews’ and William Nylander’s next contracts

Auston Matthews and William Nylander are both eligible for extensions beginning July 1. Here's the latest.

theathletic.com

William Nylander update

Nylander’s agent, Lewis Gross, met with Treliving during draft week in Nashville. It wasn’t the only time they’ve spoken about Nylander’s next deal.

This one is even thornier than Matthews.

That’s because a) Nylander has a 10-team no-trade clause that kicks in on July 1, which puts a soft deadline on negotiations for the Leafs and b) seems to be seeking more money than the Leafs are willing to pay.

Nylander wants to be a Leaf. He’s told Treliving and team president Brendan Shanahan as much. He also wants to be fairly compensated, especially compared to his fellow Leaf stars who he’s, arguably, outperformed in the playoffs.

If the Leafs do want to keep Nylander, they need to find a way to make it all work under the salary cap.

But what’s the Leafs’ walkaway number for Nylander? What if Nylander seeks a cap hit in the double digits that pulls him closer to Matthews, Marner, and Tavares? If the Leafs aren’t willing to go there, or even in the range of $9-plus million, will they pivot before that no-trade clause kicks in?

In other words, will they trade Nylander on Friday? Is that even possible if you’re doing it right? Or will the Leafs grind on beyond July 1 and risk limiting the pool of suitors if they can’t come to a deal?

Might they consider letting Nylander play out the last year of his current deal, which carries a cap hit ($6.96 million) that currently ranks as the 96th highest in the NHL for next season?

Part of the problem for the Leafs is that Nylander’s camp doesn’t appear to see July 1 as a deadline.

Next July 1, when Nylander’s current deal runs out, is their deadline.

 

[sunstersun]

I thought Nylander was embarrassing at times in the playoffs.

So you obviously thought Marner was an embarrassment, disaster?

No? Slurp slurp slurp.

 

[nuck]

I think it might be Marner instead that gets moved. If they even get into the $10m range with Willy...they know Marner will want at least 12m or more on his next deal.

He's not a $10M guy. The "comps" in the 9s are clearly better players. If that's his number then time to move on asap. He thinks he has the year to drag it out again. Tre and Shanny please show the balls that were lacking last time around and deal this greedy prick.

 

[supermann_98]

I agree but it does not appear Shanny does. If Shanny and Tre can't see Mitch asking for more than $12m in two years, they are not qualified to do their jobs.

He will ask for more than $12m while Pasta is locked in at $11.25 for the next 8 years, but I have no doubt he will still have the nerve to ask for $12m+

 

[thewave]

So you obviously thought Marner was an embarrassment, disaster?

No? Slurp slurp slurp.

That was boss level.

 

[ULF_55]

What we’re hearing about Auston Matthews’ and William Nylander’s next contracts

Auston Matthews and William Nylander are both eligible for extensions beginning July 1. Here's the latest.

theathletic.com

William Nylander update

Part of the problem for the Leafs is that Nylander’s camp doesn’t appear to see July 1 as a deadline.

Next July 1, when Nylander’s current deal runs out, is their deadline.

He can't sign before July 1st., so there is no deadline.

Can't put pen to paper before tomorrow.

 

[Mess]

Though to be fair Michael Nylander has asserted the agent agreed to the deal without confirming with him first.

That was another incident earlier where that happened. You're thinking of the event that transpired a month earlier with Michael.

The 34-year-old Nylander is in his native Sweden, and the case may also be complicated by the fact Mike Gillis has been representing the player for only a short time.

The New York Post reported in early June that Nylander fired agent his Paul Theofanous after learning the agent had agreed in principle to a new deal with the Rangers without consulting him.

That point of yours was Nylander to NYR in June excuse for not signing there, & not to Edmonton instead of Washington in July.

Talk about a tough player to nail down and get signed !!!

 

[notDatsyuk]

Then you don't trade him. You don't make the team significantly worse next season just to move him. Only 4 RW have more points than him the last 3 seasons. Marner, Rantanen, Pasta, Kucherov.

That's the list. Like top RHD, High scoring RW's are hard to find.

While being the only second-line player, and averaging between 1 and 3 1/2 minutes less ice time.

4th in goals and 6th in points at even strength, while not even in the top ten in ice time.

 

[Buds17]

There's zero urgency.

I think the best move is actually waiting 'til the deadline to see where the team is and see who's willing to make a big overpayment to have Willy.

The only way the team should be trading Nylander by the deadline is if they are out of the playoff race (which would be a terrible place for them to be). The only way they're receiving a big overpayment in exchange for Nylander is to have the player forgo free agency and sign long-term with that new team.

 

[Willchel Marlynder]

William Nylander has scored more regular season goals and playoff goals then Mitch Marner throughout their careers and Mitch has been making +$4 mil per season for the past 4 seasons.

I have no doubt Nylander is looking to close that gap significantly now on his next deal and so that asking number is between $10 and $11 mil.

example "You're paying everyone else $11 mil so where is mine?"

The only one standing between this insanity of more overpriced contracts and reality is Brad Treliving and I hope he holds the line and puts his foot in the ground and says "enough is enough".

Issue was including him in the "core 4" once Matthews and Marner hit the payday lotto the narrative should have been "the 3 amigos" or some shit like that. Calling it the core 4 meant Nylander was expected to hang with guys making 55%+ his salary. Now that he is third on the "core 4 hierarchy" (maybe 2nd in the playoffs) he has come to negotiations and is now ready to collect a salary befitting of a core 4 superstar.

 

[supermann_98]

I think if Willie goes UFA, he makes more than 10.

Respectfully disagree, but primarily due to most teams being right up against the cap unless they are actively tanking where they wouldn't want a guy like Nylander to disrupt their tank plans

 

[ULF_55]

He's not a $10M guy. The "comps" in the 9s are clearly better players. If that's his number then time to move on asap. He thinks he has the year to drag it out again. Tre and Shanny please show the balls that were lacking last time around and deal this greedy prick.

Sorry, marner has a NMC starting tomorrow so they can't just deal him.