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What is your limit for a "Cap %" for Nylander

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Jamason said:
I can't see the results without voting, but the way it's set up are really negative. It is assuming he won't sign, so the basic tenet is "the worst possible thing is happening, which way do you think is least terrible?"

If an option was "sign him for $9.5 for 6-8 years" we would probably see a lot different results.
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Yes, if he signs he will be here for a Playoff Run, that's stating the obvious.

This was brought up because people were saying he must be traded if not signed by the deadline.
 
ACC1224 said:
Yes, if he signs he will be here for a Playoff Run, that's stating the obvious.

This was brought up because people were saying he must be traded if not signed by the deadline.
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The question sounds too much like we are already admitting he won't sign.

Maybe that should be included in the question: "If we can't sign him by the trade deadline ...."
 
Jamason said:
The question sounds too much like we are already admitting he won't sign.

Maybe that should be included in the question: "If we can't sign him by the trade deadline ...."
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It's the same thing as an 'Own Rental'.
 
ACC1224 said:
It's the same thing as an 'Own Rental'.
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"Own rental" is the same as 'keep him for a playoff run'.

If we can't sign him, would you rather "keep him as an own rental for the playoff run" or "trade him so you don't lose an asset for nothing".

That phrasing seems to make more sense to me.
 
Jamason said:
"Own rental" is the same as 'keep him for a playoff run'.

If we can't sign him, would you rather "keep him as an own rental for the playoff run" or "trade him so you don't lose an asset for nothing".

That phrasing seems to make more sense to me.
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Yes, that's what it says.
 
Friedman was saying that it took a week or so of negotiations to sign Scheifele and Jets started negotiating with Helley in September. From the rumours, two Jets that preferred moving out of Winnipeg. Our guy says he wants to stay and remains unsigned. Get it done Tre.
 
Jamason said:
Centres tend to put up more goals and assists, and pointing out an exception from 20-25 years ago doesn't disprove that. How about 7 of the last 8 Art Ross Trophy winners have been centres?
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I wasn't trying to disprove it, I agree. Just pointing out that Jagr is a beast !
 
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Treliving on Minten making Leafs out of camp, depth built this offseason and more - TSN Radio 1050

Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brad Treliving joins us to chat about Fraser Minten making the team out of camp, the depth built over the offseason, latest on the William Nylander negotiations, differences in the Toronto and Calgary markets and more.

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Toronto Maple Leafs' Treliving on Nylander: 'We're hopeful that he'll be with us for a long time' | TSN

Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brad Treliving reiterated Tuesday that he's hoping to sign William Nylander to a contract extension.
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Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brad Treliving reiterated Tuesday that he's hoping to sign William Nylander to a contract extension.

Nylander, who is currently scheduled to hit unrestricted free agency in July, has given his agent permission to continue negotiations into the season(opens in a new tab).

"We haven't signed a contract yet, so that's probably my update right now," Treliving told First Up on TSN Radio 1050 Toronto. "I've stated it publicly: William's a terrific player. He's a star player and we want to extend Willy. I've had lots of talks with Willy. He loves Toronto, he loves the franchise, loves the city, the people – so I would think that's a good place to start."

"We're not going to talk about it publicly. Our focus is going to be on the ice. We'll continue to work in the background on the business side. Obviously Willy's attention is going to be on getting started tomorrow and having a terrific year and we'll keep plugging away and certainly once we have good news, we'll be sure to let everybody know. We're going to do a daily update on it and hopefully we can get to a point where we've got good news."

"He's a terrific player and we're hopeful that he'll be with us for a long time."
 
hockeywiz542 said:
Treliving on Minten making Leafs out of camp, depth built this offseason and more - TSN Radio 1050

Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brad Treliving joins us to chat about Fraser Minten making the team out of camp, the depth built over the offseason, latest on the William Nylander negotiations, differences in the Toronto and Calgary markets and more.

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Toronto Maple Leafs' Treliving on Nylander: 'We're hopeful that he'll be with us for a long time' | TSN

Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brad Treliving reiterated Tuesday that he's hoping to sign William Nylander to a contract extension.
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Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brad Treliving reiterated Tuesday that he's hoping to sign William Nylander to a contract extension.

Nylander, who is currently scheduled to hit unrestricted free agency in July, has given his agent permission to continue negotiations into the season(opens in a new tab).

"We haven't signed a contract yet, so that's probably my update right now," Treliving told First Up on TSN Radio 1050 Toronto. "I've stated it publicly: William's a terrific player. He's a star player and we want to extend Willy. I've had lots of talks with Willy. He loves Toronto, he loves the franchise, loves the city, the people – so I would think that's a good place to start."

"We're not going to talk about it publicly. Our focus is going to be on the ice. We'll continue to work in the background on the business side. Obviously Willy's attention is going to be on getting started tomorrow and having a terrific year and we'll keep plugging away and certainly once we have good news, we'll be sure to let everybody know. We're going to do a daily update on it and hopefully we can get to a point where we've got good news."

"He's a terrific player and we're hopeful that he'll be with us for a long time."
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Is the part in red misquoted? I can't see them talking about it daily.
 
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MavisGoldberg said:
Why would Leafs lose WN due to JT when they clearly have the cap to sign him? The cap issues are better than a majority of teams by next summer.And not sure this team needs a "Miracle". They are very good.
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We have the cap. We can always have the cap to overpay players. That's not the point. The point is we don't have a playoff ready or winning product on the ice. That requires cap to get the depth or a miracle.
 
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Arzak said:
I wasn't trying to disprove it, I agree. Just pointing out that Jagr is a beast !
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I always liked him better than Mario, which is not saying I thought he was better.

Underappreciated because of who he played with.
 
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Menzinger said:
Vegas got him via the expansion draft, so it's unlikely that's applicable to the Leafs situation. The problem with the trade Nylander idea is there's few direct ways it turns into making the team better tomorrow. What some people seem to want for him - a top young top 2/3 D man isn't going to be available.

This team isn't going to spend a few seasons retooling, they're going to keep focusing on being as competitive as possible every year.
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The Marchesseault example was just pointing out that a 60pt player can be a post season difference maker..Justin Williams, Dustin Brown, Patrick Sharp, TJ Oshie, or old Kessel. The Leafs are stars or else a couple rungs down like Bunting and Kerfoot.

Its not a retool to move a player like Nylander when you have two better forwards. Who else had an 87pt player as their third leading scorer? Not Vegas or Fla. Just dont trade him for magic beans. Younger and cheaper please.
 
Jamason said:
"Own rental" is the same as 'keep him for a playoff run'.

If we can't sign him, would you rather "keep him as an own rental for the playoff run" or "trade him so you don't lose an asset for nothing".

That phrasing seems to make more sense to me.
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Would be no different for any player on this forum.

Not exactly asking a brilliant audience.
 
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ToneDog said:
Friedman was saying that it took a week or so of negotiations to sign Scheifele and Jets started negotiating with Helley in September. From the rumours, two Jets that preferred moving out of Winnipeg. Our guy says he wants to stay and remains unsigned. Get it done Tre.
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the signing or the trade?
 
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The longer this negotiation drags on, the more we're going to have to pay him. He could very well be on pace for 100 points and matching or exceeding Marner's output by the new year.

At that point Willy has all the leverage with us bent over a barrel and he would be fully within his right to demand the same $11m AAV Mitch got.

I'd bite the bullet and give him $10m now if it meant getting the deal done today. We didn't want to give Marner $9m in the summer of 2018, then he exploded the following season and milked us dry with his current deal.
 
ACC1224 said:
I think the preference would have been to do that but the player also has a say in it.
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The reports from the off-season were that we were trying to lock him up on a contract within the $8-8.5 million dollar range... Yeah, that's not happening and was never going to happen... Hopefully we've at least moved up to something in the mid-9s at this point.
 
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