Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYI] F Pierre Engvall re-signs with the Islanders (7 years, $3M AAV)

[Kevin27NYI]

Shows a long line of poor decisions

It shows a former owner made a poor decision which was corrected and doesn’t affect the future of the team thanks to it being a compliance buyout.

 

[SI90]

This thread is about the isles


Shows a long line of poor decisions

That was a different owner and different GM. Has no relevance

 

[leeroggy]

This thread is about the isles


Shows a long line of poor decisions

No, it's about Engvall . . . not DiPietro

Now go back to rooting for the team that couldn't beat the Blackhawks to make the postseason and we'll worry about our team

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

That was a different owner and different GM. Has no relevance

New management seems to be continuing the tradition. But hey if you guys are happy with locking up mediocre players forever good for you.

No, it's about Engvall . . . not DiPietro

Now go back to rooting for the team that couldn't beat the Blackhawks to make the postseason and we'll worry about our team

This is the public board. Go to the isles board if you want only positive comments.

 

[SI90]

New management seems to be continuing the tradition. But hey if you guys are happy with locking up mediocre players forever good for you.


This is the public board. Go to the isles board if you want only positive comments.

New management went to 2 ECFs including series wins over the pens including a sweep. We’re happy!!

 

[mouser]

I think signing 3rd liners for more than 2 or 3 years max is generally a bad idea.

It's not even that the player's performance or effort will decline. It's more that often teams will find themselves down the road looking to cut a little cap and insert a cheaper younger player into that lineup slot.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

New management went to 2 ECFs including series wins over the pens including a sweep. We’re happy!!

Ah yes the top of the mountain, the ecf. Good for you guys. Not sure why you're bringing the penguins into every post.

 

[leeroggy]

New management seems to be continuing the tradition. But hey if you guys are happy with locking up mediocre players forever good for you.


This is the public board. Go to the isles board if you want only positive comments.

And there's a few rules about trolling you might want to familiarize yourself with . . . like dragging a RETIRED player into a discussion thread about a player who just signed a new contract . . .

 

[CupHolders]

Shows a long line of poor decisions

By no one currently involved with the organization. Charles Wang (Not Garth Snow), who negotiated the deal directly with DiPietro is no longer owner or alive. Charles Wang was more interested in cheap PR than actual hockey substance.

 

[SI90]

Ah yes the top of the mountain, the ecf. Good for you guys. Not sure why you're bringing the penguins into every post.

Well our history with the old ownership and GM who signed that contract we weren’t able to beat the pens in those days. Now it’s been pretty much a breeze against them.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Lou: And YOU get 7 years, and YOU get 7 years. Everybody check under your seats, you ALL get 7 years!!!

 

[gritdash60]

These are my favorite kind of deals, huge term and little money. I have no idea how in any bananaworld situation either the GM or the player agrees on these

 

[Taswell]

Ah, I remember when Isles used to get dragged on here as the place no one wanted to sign or stay. Now they get dragged because everyone wants to stay. This contract is the least of my worries out of what we did yesterday. The Mayfield one though....woof, not about it.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

I think signing 3rd liners for more than 2 or 3 years max is generally a bad idea.

It's not even that the player's performance or effort will decline. It's more that often teams will find themselves down the road looking to cut a little cap and insert a cheaper younger player into that lineup slot.

I think there is a lot of value in year over year turnover. I don't understand signing unremarkable players to remarkable term. It's easier o move them in and out than the higher profile guys, so why attach a term anchor? Don't fall in love with average talent.

 

[miscs75]

Ah, I remember when Isles used to get dragged on here as the place no one wanted to sign or stay. Now they get dragged because everyone wants to stay. This contract is the least of my worries out of what we did yesterday. The Mayfield one though....woof, not about it.

You’d think based on how people talk about the Isles, it’s still ran by Milbury and owned by John Spano.

 

[Figgy44]

What if Engvall and Lou agreed on 2 years, but with Lou's messy writing, the league thought it looked like a 7 when they received the paperwork?

 

[CanadienShark]

Not sure I am a fan of the term, only saving grace is Engvall is 27 now so it's not like signing a 30 year old to 7 years. But I am not really sure Islander got any special discount signing him to 7 compared to 5 or 6 and there is a huge risk of just injuries hitting him near the end of that deal.

"Not sure..."

.... Sure.

 

[MikeyMike01]

I think signing 3rd liners for more than 2 or 3 years max is generally a bad idea.

It's not even that the player's performance or effort will decline. It's more that often teams will find themselves down the road looking to cut a little cap and insert a cheaper younger player into that lineup slot.

It's hard to imagine a scenario where a $3M player is causing cap hardship, today, much less 4 years in the future.

 

[Green]

I liked him but he was playing in a contract year so that is always skewed in a players favor, have a feeling this is going to be less than favorable when all is said and done

 

[Seph]

Shows a long line of poor decisions

How does the decision of a man whose been dead for 5 years have any bearing on the current team?

 

[2ndGenIslander]

saw all the posts on this thread and wanted to check it out, disappointed to see the posts are about all sorts of nonsense, nothing about engvall…

 

[mouser]

It's hard to imagine a scenario where a $3M player is causing cap hardship, today, much less 4 years in the future.

Cal Clutterbuck?

Again, my point is more blocking younger cheaper players, than the cap hit itself being an albatross.

 

[Guttersniped]

Shows a long line of poor decisions

You should start listing bad Mike Milbury trades and totally own them.

 

[The Real JT]

I think signing 3rd liners for more than 2 or 3 years max is generally a bad idea.

It's not even that the player's performance or effort will decline. It's more that often teams will find themselves down the road looking to cut a little cap and insert a cheaper younger player into that lineup slot.

We have that covered.

Lou trades away most of our draft picks so there are no young players on cheap contracts to fill the void.

Winning!

 

[MikeyMike01]

Cal Clutterbuck?

Again, my point is more blocking younger cheaper players, than the cap hit itself being an albatross.

Clutterbuck makes $1.75M