Confirmed Signing with Link: [NYI] F Pierre Engvall re-signs with the Islanders (7 years, $3M AAV)

[LickTheEnvelope]

I feel like the Isles would be giving guys 15 year deals if they could.

 

[SML2]

This will end worse than Gwyneth Paltrow's head in a box.

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Engvall really found himself on Long Island. Watched him play in the playoffs and a few games at the end of the regular season. He really helps push the pace of an otherwise slow offense, and didn't even really look out of place in their top 6.

IDK if he will be good for the full 7 years, but given his age and ability to play a good all-around game, he should be good enough for most of it.

And as guys develop and potentially push for top 6 spots (Dufour, Iskhakov, Maggio, etc.), he can seamlessly transition to their bottom 6 and take over for guys like Parise when Parise eventually retires (if he doesn't do so this year).

Giving 7 years to Mayfield and 4 years to Varlamov was a lot more egregious.

 

[Leafshater67]

I’m one of the few who doesn’t think the contract is bad but man, how can you be so big, strong, fast and even skilled yet play so soft? Dude is 6’5, 220 with wheels and incredible shape yet he’s as soft as baby shit, shies away from any physical contact and it tanks his whole game. He’s got speed, skill and size yet his softness ruins the whole package. What a stupid giraffe.

He may pull it together but damn what a frustrating player to watch!!!

 

[hawksrule]

This is nuts. Who in the world are they bidding against.

 

[Mike C]

I’m one of the few who doesn’t think the contract is bad but man, how can you be so big, strong, fast and even skilled yet play so soft? Dude is 6’5, 220 with wheels and incredible shape yet he’s as soft as baby shit, shies away from any physical contact and it tanks his whole game. He’s got speed, skill and size yet his softness ruins the whole package. What a stupid giraffe.

He may pull it together but damn what a frustrating player to watch!!!

Guy has never scored 20 in a single season. Is that worth a 7 year deal considering his lack of physicality and spotty/mediocre defense?

 

[Kahvi]

At this point, I expect all deals given by Lou to be 7-8 years deal. Chances are at this point that most deals will outlive him.

Engvall is definitely not the type of guy I would give 7 years to. At least not at a 3m AAV. Unless I'm missing something, Engvall is serviceable but not the kind that is irreplaceable. If you draft well, you can get ELC/RFA guys that do the same job.

If the cap is rising as much as they are saying in the next 2-3 seasons, $3M per is nothing. Low risk in that sense, and if Engvall plays in his current level it'll be a great deal.

 

[IslesNorway]

About four years too many. Awful deal.

The NHL is killing itself when these types of players get 6,7 and 8 year deals.

 

[Erndog]

Lou gave Zubrus 6 yrs at $3M like over a decade ago.

He hasn't learned a thing.

 

[beach]

I'm a Devils fan...

I'm a Devils fan...

Point remains the same.

 

[Pure Slaughter Value]

3-4 years at 3-4 per would be a good signing since he showed that he could play with Nelson and be effective.

It's a reach to think he'll be a good second liner or solid third liner throughout the whole term.

 

[Treb]

If the cap is rising as much as they are saying in the next 2-3 seasons, $3M per is nothing. Low risk in that sense, and if Engvall plays in his current level it'll be a great deal.

There's a lot more chances it becomes a bad deal than it becomes a great deal.

 

[MAB1]

He played well above a 3rd liner after Lou rescued him from the land of playoff despair.

That's because the Isles 1st line would be the Leafs 3rd line.

 

[miscs75]

That's because the Isles 1st line would be the Leafs 3rd line.

And the Isles backup goalie would be the best goalie you’ve had since Curtis Joseph.

 

[crashthenet]

This is nuts. Who in the world are they bidding against.

Very similar to the Miles Wood contract.

One of the better transition players we had down the stretch. An underrated aspect of the game by those who may be concerned with other things.

 

[Maple Leaf]

I feel like the Isles would be giving guys 15 year deals if they could.

On September 12, 2006, DiPietro signed a 15-year, $67.5 million contract with the Islanders, topping former teammate Alexei Yashin's contract signed before the start of the 2001–02 season of 10 years.[14] Newsday reported that the team offered him a 15-year contract in September 2005, but the NHL front office discouraged the Islanders from making such an offer. Instead, DiPietro had signed on a one-year deal with the Islanders.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

I feel like the Isles would be giving guys 15 year deals if they could.

They're still paying Dipietro until 2029

 

[leeroggy]

Engvall had 17 goals in 76 games last year, how is that not worth $3 million? And he's a plus player every year he's played. He basically provided help with two of the Isles biggest weaknesses . . . a 3rd line goal scorer and speed. His zone entries were better than most of our forwards and his zone clears were really good too. Laugh about the 7 years, but if he just continues to do this he'll be an excellent long-term piece.

They're still paying Dipietro until 2029

He was bought out a while ago, there's no cap hit anymore . . . you might want to at least spend 10 seconds checking that on Capfriendly next time

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Engvall had 17 goals in 76 games last year, how is that not worth $3 million? And he's a plus player every year he's played. He basically provided help with two of the Isles biggest weaknesses . . . a 3rd line goal scorer and speed. His zone entries were better than most of our forwards and his zone clears were really good too. Laugh about the 7 years, but if he just continues to do this he'll be an excellent long-term piece.


He was bought out a while ago, there's no cap hit anymore . . . you might want to at least spend 10 seconds checking that on Capfriendly next time

You know you have to pay him still if you buy him out right? He's being paid until 2029 by the isles.

 

[leeroggy]

You know you have to pay him still if you buy him out right? He's being paid until 2029 by the isles.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

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He literally got paid $1.5 mil yesterday. I know it doesn't count against the cap but he's still being paid.

 

[SI90]

He literally got paid $1.5 mil yesterday. I know it doesn't count against the cap but he's still being paid.

But why is that relevant if it was a compliance buyout and doesn’t count towards that cap?

 

[leeroggy]

He literally got paid $1.5 mil yesterday. I know it doesn't count against the cap but he's still being paid.

So what? The Isles owners are billionaires. Big deal.

Now worry about how much Jarry will cost to buy out in 2 years when he's run out of town.

 

[Kevin27NYI]

He literally got paid $1.5 mil yesterday. I know it doesn't count against the cap but he's still being paid.

Who cares?

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

So what? The Isles owners are billionaires. Big deal.

Now worry about how much Jarry will cost to buy out in 2 years when he's run out of town.

This thread is about the isles

But why is that relevant if it was a compliance buyout and doesn’t count towards that cap?

Shows a long line of poor decisions