Why are you looking only at goals? Do you think that Stamkos is just a shooter? He scored 86 points before while scoring only 27 goals.
Preds offense also isn't nearly as bad as what you're insinuating.
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Preds offense also isn't nearly as bad as what you're insinuating.
Stamkos is indeed just a shooter. His playmaking, puckhandling, and decision-making are all below average at best.
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Why are you only looking at stat sheets instead of listening to the people who have watched him play every night for the past sixteen years?
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The fact you keep saying we don't have much coming up just tells me you don't know a thing about our prospects. We actually have a log jam with nowhere to put some of them now. Its one of the reasons Afanasyev wanted out, and one reason we may end up trading a guy like Tomasino.
The only group that may be a bit iffy is on the defensive side of things, but that's mainly because we haven't been using draft picks on too many of them.
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Was just reading an article in which Martin St Louis intimated that Stamkos may come to appreciate the move to Nashville. St. Louis had his own move after over a decade, but I think he was the one that wanted out. It is a shame that neither him nor Stamkos ended up as Lightning lifers. I am sure when things are all said and done, Stamkos will probably return and sign a one day contract and retire as a Bolt.
He's also referencing a season that happened 7 years ago, Nashville isn't getting 27 year old Stamkos
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Stamkos is absolutely just a shooter, any fan of an Atlantic team with half a brain and one eye could tell you that's been the case for quite some time
Not amazing, but he could have had 3 goals in 6 games if not for a post and an amazing save vs Detroit, so could be worse.
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When you watch Stamkos play over the past few seasons, it really doesn't seem like he really holds the puck for any length of time to even make decisions or have to playmake or puckhandle. He simply can't transport a puck for any distance to even make coherent plays. Still an opportunistic a sniper though.
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He is exactly as Bolts fans said he would be.
I mean we still needed a pp specialist and a goal scorer.
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Better call up all those prospects I missed since the preds look exactly like I said they were headed for.
Also I don't overrate prospects including my own team and nobody you guys had especially now that Akorov is gone screams difference maker.
Sometimes the truth hurts so you posted from a defensive pov and I get that but a common thing here on HF is how many prospects are gonna be great when the truth is most fall flat on their face
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It's true.
Whether it's pro scouting or coaching decisions that fly in the face of that, I think the Preds really need to just accept him for what he is. He shouldn't play more than ~17 mins a night. He's fine loading up on the PP. Maybe in a game with a ton of PP time or trailing late his minutes tip up slightly. But you can't ever get carried away like the 23 mins in Game 1.
He has 1 goal (PP) on 22 shots, which isn't going to be his final SPCT. He's not washed or terrible or anything. But he does need to be utilized to his strengths. The Preds paid a UFA premium to pry him out of his Retirement Home, ok. Now they just have to utilize him intelligently to make the most of their overspend investment. He can still be a net positive investment. If they don't get carried away.
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I mean they called up ZLH already this last game.
The problem for us isn't whether the guys are good or not, its a matter of whether Brunette will even give them a shot. Pretty much if they don't try and hit everything that moves he won't play them.
That and he loves him some Vets, which is why Stamkos is getting the most ice time he's seen since 2015.
Frankly I'm not sure its going to do us much good to have a difference maker, Trotz and Brunette would force them to spend 5 years in Milwaukee to make sure they beat that out of them.
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I'm still thinking, ok, just pick guys you LOVE. Like, I think we can tell they LOVE Molendyk, right? I don't know exactly why... sure, he's a nice prospect, great skater, we all like him just fine. Great pick. Etc. But he's getting all the extra looks and call outs. It's pretty clear nobody is going to sit him or make him play 3 years in Milwaukee after he gets out of junior, right?
I can see them loving L'Heureux, Surin similarly. Maybe there's a pattern of sorts maybe not. Whatever. But... to me then... don't go picking a Tomasino, Tolvanen, Fabbro if you don't LOVE them. How did they get onto your draft list that high if you didn't LOVE them and weren't subsequently going to give them the same kind of attention a Molendyk is currently getting? If you have any doubts or they don't inspire you that way, put them lower on your list, reach for somebody who is otherwise ranked a little lower? End of the day, if we get a slightly less skilled guy or whatever, who cares, at least we get a player you are truly invested in? We're not going to have ANYTHING to show for any of Tomasino, Tolvanen, or Fabbro. They're all NHLers... but won't be for us.
"Difference makers" like whether we draft a Bedard or Celebrini, that's a different level entirely. We probably won't ever have that to look forward to. We have an issue atm just with the players we actually do have the chance to draft.
I guess for UFA signings like Stamkos it's fine, they love him, just... again, apply some intelligence/constraint. He's a certain kind of player who fits a certain role, but you don't have to be blind to reality. The Preds seem to have a problem in terms of balancing their player evaluations vs. actual NHL deployments/utilization. The organization simply needs to Be Smarter. Across the board. It touches the prospect handling AND the big name UFAs like Stamkos.
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Oilslick941611
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Kucherov was the stir in Tampa and management correctly identified stamkos as expendable.
Looks like they were right
Looks like they were right
