Not good enough - no playoffs again!

[Golden_Jet]

Clearly you can’t wrap your head around the point I’ve made.

NHL.COM updates their standings in real time…. And yes they do it with their (idiotic) points system …. and you can’t argue with that fact.

So twice in the past week, the Sens were temporarily knocked out of their WC spot, by the Penguins, and the Sens responded by taking back the WC Spot…. IF they had lost in regulation, the Penguins would be in the WC spot.

Do you get it now?

Lmao, who can’t wrap their head around it. read VERY carefully, as it been posed 4x now.

You: they are knocked out of playoff spot by points percentage, even though Sens are ahead in points, (but points don’t matter in that case according to you).

the next game when they are in a playoff spot by points percentage, you post they are not in because of points.

So for the fourth time, do you wish to go by points or points percentage.
Why aren’t choosing one or the other.
Or go on continuing to be obtuse and continue flip flopping.

 

[guyzeur]

With back to backs coming up---Vancouver then Edmonton. I think they go Forsberg then Ullmark. Ullmark vs Edmonton.
I doubt we win these next two games and go 4-0 on this road trip.

who cares since we won't win them!!!

Why can't people hope for good results? Stop being scared of a disappointment!

 

[OD99]

We are .500 on the road right now, with a heavy Western road schedule.

7-7-1. If someone wants to argue we are one game below, OK. A shootout loss to the Ducks that still got us a point.

If we can, somehow, finish these next 7 games and maintain a .500 road record, that would set us up so well for the rest of the season.

 

[swiftwin]

no, my team, the Sens responded to the ‘knowledge that they were knocked out of the WC spot, and that they needed at a minimum one point, to get back in the WC spot…


The point being, with teams so close behind them, they needed to step up and keep the winning streak going as long as possible..

But you still lost.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Lmao, who can’t wrap their head around it. read VERY carefully, as it been posed 4x now.

You: they are knocked out of playoff spot by points percentage, even though Sens are ahead in points, (but points don’t matter in that case according to you).

the next game when they are in a playoff spot by points percentage, you post they are not in because of points.

So for the fourth time, do you wish to go by points or points percentage.
Why aren’t choosing one or the other.
Or go on continuing to be obtuse and continue flip flopping.

Look, you seem upset that the NHL updates their standings, in real time… such as when the Penguins won in Overtime, last night in the Eastern time zone…. They (The NHL) moved the Sens out, and the Pens into the last Wild Card spot….. I posted about it just before 11pm yesterday.


Then, when the Sens won in OT, in Calgary, the NHL ( in real time ) moved the Sens back into the WC spot ….

It’s pretty simple…. If you need further clarification perhaps someone else could dumb it down better than this?

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

But you still lost.

Don’t bet on sporting events, so no, I did not lose anything…. My team came through and jumped back into the WC spot…. According to the NHL rankings.

Plus their winning streak has improved their “chances to make the playoffs” into the mid 60s(%).

 

[Alf Silfversson]

Pens win in OT, and move into the WC spot…. Sens need one point to get back into WC spot

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[Golden_Jet]

Look, you seem upset that the NHL updates their standings, in real time… such as when the Penguins won in Overtime, last night in the Eastern time zone…. They (The NHL) moved the Sens out, and the Pens into the last Wild Card spot….. I posted about it just before 11pm yesterday.


Then, when the Sens won in OT, in Calgary, the NHL ( in real time ) moved the Sens back into the WC spot ….

It’s pretty simple…. If you need further clarification perhaps someone else could dumb it down better than this?

Just answer the question and we can move on, as you are being obtuse. Maybe bold font will help.
Here is what you’ve done in the last week.

Sens were in the playoffs by points. ( you countered with, they are not in by points percentage)

Next time, Sens were in by points percentage ( you countered with, they are not in by points )

Thus you keep flip flopping.

Your purposely keep dodging the question each time, even though you quote the question each time.
So moving forward so you don’t need to keep the charade going.

Which one will you be using in your charts during the season

A) points to determine playoffs
B) points percentage to determine playoffs

Which is it A or B.

 

[swiftwin]

Don’t bet on sporting events, so no, I did not lose anything…. My team came through and jumped back into the WC spot…. According to the NHL rankings.

Plus their winning streak has improved their “chances to make the playoffs” into the mid 60s(%).

Nice try. You're not fooling anyone.

 

[LiseL]

Time to shut this thread down. Where are the positive threads?

Or change the title to "Are we good enough to make the playoffs?" as that would be more appropriate IMO.

Assuming you have to start Ullmark Saturday against Vancouver and write off Edmonton as a loss.

Edmonton plays at 4pm Ottawa time on Saturday and then 8pm against us Sunday
Ottawa plays at 10pm Ottawa time on Saturday and then 8pm against Edmonton

The team looked rough with the 24 hours between Carolina and Pittsburgh at home. I don't see how they hold up against Edmonton with even less time off.

It's one of those ones where the generic measures of a schedule would say "oh Ottawa is tired but playing a tired team". Not in reality though. Edmonton is at home with over 24 hours off. Ottawa is flying in with less than 24 hours.

I also think the western teams aren't as affected by jet lag as they have to travel year round even when playing divisional/western conference teams. It becomes routine for them I think.

 

[Back in Black]

Playoffs, here we come!!!

 

[Wondercarrot]

Just answer the question and we can move on, as you are being obtuse. Maybe bold font will help.
Here is what you’ve done in the last week.

Sens were in the playoffs by points. ( you countered with, they are not in by points percentage)

Next time, Sens were in by points percentage ( you countered with, they are not in by points )

Thus you keep flip flopping.

Your purposely keep dodging the question each time, even though you quote the question each time.
So moving forward so you don’t need to keep the charade going.

Which one will you be using in your charts during the season

A) points to determine playoffs
B) points percentage to determine playoffs

Which is it A or B.

Hmmm, this reminds me of something…what could it be?!? Ah yes.

“What is this gaslighting you are talking about good sir? I am but a simple man asking questions?”

 

[Stylizer1]

We are playing better but when other teams start ramping it up for the playoffs can create enough of a cushion or can we sustain our play to get in? I think we are 1 injury away of disrupting our cohesion.

 

[NyQuil]

We are playing better but when other teams start ramping it up for the playoffs can create enough of a cushion or can we sustain our play to get in? I think we are 1 injury away of disrupting our cohesion.

If that injury is to Ullmark, Stutzle or Jensen.

 

[Alex1234]

If that injury is Ullmark, Stutzle or Jensen.

He's super durable but if Brady falls I think it's over too

 

[Micklebot]

We are playing better but when other teams start ramping it up for the playoffs can create enough of a cushion or can we sustain our play to get in? I think we are 1 injury away of disrupting our cohesion.

Wasn't the Zub injury supposed to be the one to disrupt our cohesion?

Health can unravel any teams season, so sure, the wrong guy gets hurt and we may struggle.

If we stay relatively healthy though, Zub coming back could see us improve further.

I'll just enjoy the glstrong play while it's here rather than worry about the what ifs.

 

[Senovision]

Wow great win tonight. Can they really win 7 in a row? We will find out vs Edmonton.
Remember last year at US Thanksgiving the Edmonton Oilers were out of the playoffs and they went to the Stanley Cup. This year we were out of the playoffs at US Thanksgiving. You never know. We are hot. 10-2-1 last 13 games. 6 wins in a row. Go Sens go!

 

[Senovision]

At 8-1-1 we are theeeee hottest team in the league over a 10 game span.

 

[StutzlingAway]

At 8-1-1 we are theeeee hottest team in the league over a 10 game span.

We really need to leapfrog Boston. Them and Tampa are both rolling so we just need to keep rolling for now too.

 

[Senovision]

We really need to leapfrog Boston. Them and Tampa are both rolling so we just need to keep rolling for now too.

Its been an incredible run since we lost to Vancouver on November 23rd. Go Sens go.

 

[swiftwin]

We really need to leapfrog Boston. Them and Tampa are both rolling so we just need to keep rolling for now too.

Suck that they've been streaking too, but at least the teams below us are not. We're creating alot of separation between the WC2 and the non-playoff teams.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Just answer the question and we can move on, as you are being obtuse. Maybe bold font will help.
Here is what you’ve done in the last week.

Sens were in the playoffs by points. ( you countered with, they are not in by points percentage)

Next time, Sens were in by points percentage ( you countered with, they are not in by points )

Thus you keep flip flopping.

Your purposely keep dodging the question each time, even though you quote the question each time.
So moving forward so you don’t need to keep the charade going.

Which one will you be using in your charts during the season

A) points to determine playoffs
B) points percentage to determine playoffs

Which is it A or B.

It’s pretty simple, the NHL ranks the teams by their ridiculous points system, and teams with more points regardless of the number of games played, are ranked respectively. Sometimes teams with better records and fewer games played are ranked below teams with worse records, but have more points.


I don’t understand why you can’t grasp this, it’s pretty simple. When anyone points out a team ranked (by points) is lower in the standings but has a better record you seem to get confused as to why they would point it out?

Here are a couple of examples (below)….. the Devils are ranked (by points) number one in the eastern conference by the NHL, on their website….but the Capitals have the better record….. in the NFL or MLB the Capitals would be ranked number one because of their better record….. Same thing applies to the Bruins being ranked higher (by points) but the Senators and Lightning both have a better records…….



Hope this helps, because you seem to be making a mountain out of a molehill when the concept is quite easy to grasp.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

We really need to leapfrog Boston. Them and Tampa are both rolling so we just need to keep rolling for now too.

Both the Senators and Lightning have better records than the Bruins….

Tampa has played three fewer games than the Senators and the Bruins have player two more games than the Senators….. the Lightning will be a bit harder to catch.

 

[umma gumma]

It’s pretty simple, the NHL ranks the teams by their ridiculous points system, and teams with more points regardless of the number of games played, are ranked respectively. Sometimes teams with better records and fewer games played are ranked below teams with worse records, but have more points.

So what you're saying is that there is no point ranking them by percentage, yet you tried to do just that, because it put us out of the playoffs. I think we all grasped your motive just fine.

You post in a similar fashion to Sweat Red.

 

[Golden_Jet]

It’s pretty simple, the NHL ranks the teams by their ridiculous points system, and teams with more points regardless of the number of games played, are ranked respectively. Sometimes teams with better records and fewer games played are ranked below teams with worse records, but have more points.


I don’t understand why you can’t grasp this, it’s pretty simple. When anyone points out a team ranked (by points) is lower in the standings but has a better record you seem to get confused as to why they would point it out?

Here are a couple of examples (below)….. the Devils are ranked (by points) number one in the eastern conference by the NHL, on their website….but the Capitals have the better record….. in the NFL or MLB the Capitals would be ranked number one because of their better record….. Same thing applies to the Bruins being ranked higher (by points) but the Senators and Lightning both have a better records…….



Hope this helps, because you seem to be making a mountain out of a molehill when the concept is quite easy to grasp.

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There is no mountain out of a molehill, you couldn’t be more obtuse if you tried.

you got called out on it on posting two polar opposite systems and got embarrassed. The evidence was posted 4x. You got asked to explain it 6x and dodge and weave and refuse to answer the question.

Let’s try a different way. Can you answer this question.
Why did you post they were out of the playoffs by points percentage, when they were in the playoffs by points.

I bet you refuse to answer that question as well. We see right through your phony agenda.

So what you're saying is that there is no point ranking them by percentage, yet you tried to do just that, because it put us out of the playoffs. I think we all grasped your motive just fine.

You post in a similar fashion to Sweat Red.

Exactly, we all grasped the motive behind flip flopper. Just like sweatred, good point.