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Norris Trophy Power Rankings: Rielly on top with gaudy offensive numbers

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The pumping of Morgan Rielly's tires seems to have died down recently. Looks like those offensive numbers aren't quite as gaudy anymore. Threads like these never seem to age well.
Giordano and Burns are currently tied for 1st among d-men with 52 pts. Rielly is now 3rd with 48.
Gio still leads the league in +/- with +30.
 
LeafFever said:
You are simply underrating him which has occurred for his entire career on here.
He is clearly a top-end D. And he was last year as well. (53 points without PP time).
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Is this some kind of new language? Or, like, some secret code? Where “53 points without PP time” translates into...

- 167 power play minutes
- 52 points
- 25 power play points?
 
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Some stats for the five highest scoring defensemen this season...

[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]Player[/TD][TD]GP[/TD][TD]G[/TD][TD]A[/TD][TD]Pts[/TD][TD]PPP[/TD][TD]GWG[/TD][TD]ATOI[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Mark Giordano[/TD][TD]48[/TD][TD]11[/TD][TD]41[/TD][TD]52[/TD][TD]18[/TD][TD]1[/TD][TD]24:44[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Brent Burns[/TD][TD]50[/TD][TD]9[/TD][TD]43[/TD][TD]52[/TD][TD]20[/TD][TD]4[/TD][TD]24:33[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Morgan Rielly[/TD][TD]48[/TD][TD]13[/TD][TD]35[/TD][TD]48[/TD][TD]14[/TD][TD]3[/TD][TD]22:36[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]John Carlson[/TD][TD]47[/TD][TD]8[/TD][TD]37[/TD][TD]45[/TD][TD]19[/TD][TD]0[/TD][TD]25:19[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD]Erik Karlsson[/TD][TD]47[/TD][TD]3[/TD][TD]40[/TD][TD]43[/TD][TD]18[/TD][TD]1[/TD][TD]24:59[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
 
I don't see why points are such an important metric for this year. When Doughty won he was barely top 10 for points by a defensemen. If Gio keeps up his high level, two-way play he should get a lot of Norris votes.
 
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johnnystormcgy said:
I don't see why points are such an important metric for this year. When Doughty won he was barely top 10 for points by a defensemen. If Gio keeps up his high level, two-way play he should get a lot of Norris votes.
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That's the outlier though. Most years points is huge. And Doughty should have never won that year.
 
To me, Kris Letang has been the best defenseman in the league this year. Haven't seen him defend this well, in well maybe forever.

Very gaudy possession stats to back it up.
 
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Filthy Dangles said:
To me, Kris Letang has been the best defenseman in the league this year. Haven't seen him defend this well, in well maybe forever.

Very gaudy possession stats to back it up.
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Letang will never get the credit he deserves because people automatically default to "he plays with Crosby and Malkin, easy to rack up points with them", but he's been arguably the Pens' MVP this year.

The Pens' defense corps, in particular, lives or dies by how Letang is playing. When he's on (which he's been for 95% of the games), it looks passable. But the rare times Letang's had a rough night, the defense looks AHL caliber.

(Note: not necessarily he *should* win the Norris. But he's having the type of season where he should at least be in the conversation and finish somewhere in the Top-5 in voting)
 
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The Macho Man said:
Eh - he's a #1, but not a great one.
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I still have such a hard time calling guys 1D's who are essentially depth PKers (4D/5D PK minutes) and not used fully in big defensive moments. Know what I mean?

I think Reilly's a 1D, but... I don't think he's the guy who's going to play 30 minutes a night in a playoff blood bath.
 
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Gaudfather said:
If Gio stays within 5-6 points of the point leaders at the end of the season (Dmen), it’s hard for me to see how he wouldn’t get the Norris.
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Giordano should have it well in hand at this point. He's got the best case outside points in my opinion, and he's right up there in that category as well.

Sidney the Kidney said:
Letang will never get the credit he deserves because people automatically default to "he plays with Crosby and Malkin, easy to rack up points with them", but he's been arguably the Pens' MVP this year.
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Yeah, Letang has been ridiculous so far this year. He's the clear runner up at the moment in my opinion.
 
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