Confirmed with Link: (NJ/MTL) Allen to NJ for Conditional 2025 3rd Rd Pick (50% Retained)

[NiedermayerNades]

Hand me some of the Devils tinted glasses that are being passed around in here.

This trade sucks, I need some copium.

They hog all the supply since on every website its the same small crowd preaching everyones just negative

 

[Based Anime Fan]

Does he refuse to face the media after games? That much I don't know.

I don't think Vitek has always been a nutcase or anything, but he's beyond mentally shot here, probably after what happened in the playoffs last year.

He's pretty candid with media.

 

[TrufleShufle]

No, its not - contenders rarely move 2nds for backups

If they get a better goalie, he becomes the back up and it stays a 3rd. If he plays well enough to hit that number? Is he a back up? Not saying he will come in and be the answer, but you have to think through every scenario. But first have to see what Fitz does in the offseason and before that even, see what Allen does the last few games. Was this desperation or some 4d chess. Idk.

 

[Better Call Sal]

I understand not liking giving up a probable 2nd for him, but that may have been needed for the retention to be what it was.

Would you rather have sent a 4th, which becomes a 3rd or even just stays a 4th for him at close to $4 million for next year? I would not.

Allen at $1.9 million for next year is a good deal, unless Fitz stops with this and thinks Allen/Vanecek is an acceptable tandem for next year.

I don't think he does think that, as down as we may be on him.

I can't believe you're the voice of reason when it comes to a goalie move. And I mean that in the best way possible.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

And they jerked him off all offseason. No one should care about this.

 

[forceten]

Pretty decent chance he hits 40 GP. Hopefully they plan to call up Daws or Schmid for spot starts next year if he gets close.

Be prepared to kiss our 1st or Holtz goodbye as the centerpiece for a Markstrom trade this summer (or maybe both)

I could live with Holtz, he’s not gonna get a chance here anyway and I don’t love the fit on our roster.

If we still go for Father Time Markstrom, especially with first and NHL players like Holtz, in the f'ing offseason along with dumping decent picks for a meh goalie like Allen I'm going to be supremely pissed off.

 

[None Shall Pass]

lol it's 2024, who the f*** is listening to NHL RADIO

 

[CalamityX23]

Jake Allen shutout incoming

 

[Billdo]

lol it's 2024, who the f*** is listening to NHL RADIO

I do on Sirius

 

[NJDfan86]

I think they add a goalie on top in the offseason and also if that goalie gets hurt, Allen probably splits time with Daws or Schmid. It's going to be awfully close and it's kind of not fair to Allen that this condition exists.

But also if it is just with NJ, it increases the likelihood he ends up in whatever deal they make for Markstrom.

Agreed, if they do get a quality starter he could go the other way or we could retain and ship him out at any point since there is always demand for goalies.

I still like to evaluate the trade in the moment, as I really do not see any sure fire goalies that are likely to be traded that I feel comfortable with their performance and health next year.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Why are you cherry picking last year as if it’s more relevant than recent history? He has better numbers than every Devils goalie this year.

Seeing now what the conditions are, this really is just essentially a 3rd round pick. It’s not awful. It’s another experienced goalie who has the ability to play well for stretches. This is clearly not the long term solution (although neither would Markstrom, but I digress)

man, who cares? As if that means anything lol

 

[Unknown Caller]

Watch Vitek revert to being a league average goalie now that we got another real NHL goalie on the roster with him.

 

[theoptimist]

They hog all the supply since on every website its the same small crowd preaching everyones just negative

 

[Billdo]

If they get a better goalie, he becomes the back up and it stays a 3rd. If he plays well enough to hit that number? Is he a back up? Not saying he will come in and be the answer, but you have to think through every scenario. But first have to see what Fitz does in the offseason and before that even, see what Allen does the last few games. Was this desperation or some 4d chess. Idk.

He'll get say 10 starts this year. That knocks it down to 30 starts next year. In an ideal world Markstrom or Ullmark make 60ish regular season starts leaving 20ish for Allen.

 

[Unknown Caller]

man, who cares? As if that means anything lol

Why wouldn't it mean anything? What a weird argument.

 

[NiedermayerNades]

If they get a better goalie, he becomes the back up and it stays a 3rd. If he plays well enough to hit that number? Is he a back up? Not saying he will come in and be the answer, but you have to think through every scenario. But first have to see what Fitz does in the offseason and before that even, see what Allen does the last few games. Was this desperation or some 4d chess. Idk.

With how desperate he is and the leagues most casual fans knowing it its so widespread , he likely gives up our top-15 pick this year plus Holtz for Markstrom, no retention

The price only gets higher with more bidders

 

[captainscott2]

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This may be the best post of the year.

 

[NJDfan86]

Watch Vitek revert to being a league average goalie now that we got another real NHL goalie on the roster with him.

This would be a pretty good outcome, at least for the rest of the season.

 

[Forge]

 

[Unknown Caller]

He'll get say 10 starts this year. That knocks it down to 30 starts next year. In an ideal world Markstrom or Ullmark make 60ish regular season starts leaving 20ish for Allen.

If he hits the condition it means that he's been at least playable, which is so much better than what we have that I'll take it.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

Worst case: he sucks for 40+ games
Best case: he is an amazing backup for 39 games

 

[Unknown Caller]

Okay this is WAY different. Everyone can calm the f*** down now.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Why wouldn't it mean anything? What a weird argument.

We could put you in net and you probably put up better numbers. It's the lowest of low bars.

Point being we basically traded away the Toffoli return, which was already light, for a goalie that isn't going to be good enough for us to make a difference now or next year.

We aren't going to win more games with Allen

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

Why wouldn't it mean anything? What a weird argument.

having better numbers than this year's craptastic combo of Devils goalies? Is that supposed to make me feel better?

Yes, I'd hope he has better numbers than the worst tandem of goalies in the league.

 

[Captain3rdLine]

That’s a huge difference. Shouldn’t be hitting 40 next season