Confirmed with Link: (NJ/MTL) Allen to NJ for Conditional 2025 3rd Rd Pick (50% Retained)

[Triumph]

So it's going to be a 2nd. He will hit that between this year and next unless he gets hurt or we waive him.

We don't know if the condition is 40 total games played, 40 games played next year, or 40 games played next year for New Jersey.

 

[forceten]

40 games played total? there's 20 this year and 82 next... so that seems like a low number. A third itself should have been fine for Allen in decline. A 2nd is not good.

 

[None Shall Pass]

 

[JrFischer54]

So, a 3rd round pick in 2025. #whocare

i was just told that a similar draft pick from the toff trade was great.


so what is it ?

 

[Based Anime Fan]

Really surprised I’m one of the more level heads on this deal.

I wouldn’t have been if it wasn’t 50% retention though and Vitek/Allen is not an acceptable tandem next year if we’re serious about playoff berth.

Vitek at all is not acceptable if we’re serious about a playoff berth.

My guess is one of Vitek or Allen are either dumped for next to nothing or used to go back to Calgary in the inevitable Markstrom trade.

I would think the team would rather get rid of Vitek though, since they have to know he’s in nervous breakdown mode and has been all year AND his cap hit is almost twice what Allen’s is with Montreal’s retention.

We're both on this one. Allen has proven to he steady. It may not be top half goaltending, but the cake is pretty much baked, and really he looks in perfectly fine on an average team.

 

[Emperoreddy]

We don't know if the condition is 40 total games played, 40 games played next year, or 40 games played next year for New Jersey.

It's this and next year

 

[Bleedred]

Allen for $1.9 million next year isn’t bad at all. That signals to me that we don’t want Daws or Schmid spending significant time here next year.

We just need to get nutcase Vitek and his $3.4 million off the books and upgrade on him.

 

[devilsblood]

do we know how many games to meet conditions?

 

[TrufleShufle]

We don't know if the condition is 40 total games played, 40 games played next year, or 40 games played next year for New Jersey.

I'd imagine it's 40 games over the course of his contract, who knows though.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

So it's going to be a 2nd. He will hit that between this year and next unless he gets hurt or we waive him.

He's going wherever we're getting our starter from I hope. Or Vanacek.

 

[Pegi]

Rather this than overpaying for being desperate for a goalie. We got few options to see who we gonna keep alongside the next upcoming 1st goalie next season.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

So, a 3rd round pick in 2025. #whocare

We still have to play 20 games this season. There’s definitely a chance he hits that quota.

 

[Unknown Caller]

Allen is not very good, but Vitek is atrocious so this is an upgrade. He'll backup whoever the starter is next season and Daws/Schmid will be the tandem in Utica.

I'm assuming we'll have Allen/Vanecek for the rest of the season once Vitek is back.

 

[RNCDevil]

I figured it out. Fitz is using an AI model with data only through 2019.

 

[Better Call Sal]

Yeah, as was mentioned by others, this should give some strong insight on the cost of an actual viable goaltender vs. what Jake Allen would be considered.

The cost was probably even more earlier in the season.

 

[Mgd31]

He is better than any of the 3 slops we have ridden out this year. A 3rd rounder for a 1.9M G?

Works for me.

 

[devilsblood]

It's this and next year

Well hopefully he plays no more then 10 this year and 30 next. A lot less would be good.

 

[Based Anime Fan]

Allen for $1.9 million next year isn’t bad at all. That signals to me that we don’t want Daws or Schmid spending significant time here next year.

We just need to get nutcase Vitek and his $3.4 million off the books and upgrade on him.

I think this is important. Allen is super stable mentally. Doesn't get down on himself, doesn't blame his team, works hard.

 

[Normal Devil]

It's this and next year

I think we can kiss the 2nd round pick next year goodbye. He's going to hit that 40 number.

 

[njdevils1982]

F*** OFF #2

i've had enough of fitz's shenanigans today....gonna go outside and cut a tree limb that fell in the wind

 

[AfroThunder396]

40 games through next season and 40 games through next season WITH NEW JERSEY is a pretty major distinction.

With the later we can freely dump him to another team and not have to worry about triggering the condition (and retain even more so they get him for < 1M). If the language just says 40 games played, that's something else entirely.

 

[OmNomNom]

have to wonder if we'll move schmid or daws in a trade

 

[Nocashstyle]

he had worse numbers last year than Vitek does this year. There is absolutely no need to tie yourself to a goalie like that for more than 20 games.

They should have just gotten Raanta off waivers and ridden him to finish the year and re-assessed in the summer

Why are you cherry picking last year as if it’s more relevant than recent history? He has better numbers than every Devils goalie this year.

Seeing now what the conditions are, this really is just essentially a 3rd round pick. It’s not awful. It’s another experienced goalie who has the ability to play well for stretches. This is clearly not the long term solution (although neither would Markstrom, but I digress)

 

[Unknown Caller]

Relax.

 

[SteveCangialosi123]

We still have to play 20 games this season. There’s definitely a chance he hits that quota.

It’s possible but I don’t think it’s likely. We almost certainly add another goalie plus there are still the 3 guys we have this year plus possibly Poulter. I’m sure we won’t let him meet the condition. Unless he’s actually really good for us, and in that case, I won’t exactly be complaining.