At a quick glance, Pronman had 6 centers in his Top 23 ranking between 11-23. Obviously a lot can change between now and next June but it seems like there will be some options depending on where the Rangers pick, if they keep the Dallas pick.
Confirmed with Link: Nils Lundkvist to DAL for 2023 1st (Top-10 Protected) and 2025 4th (Conditional)
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offdacrossbar
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Great deal for a guy who had no obvious spot on this roster. Cant blame him for wanting out and given that, very good return from Dallas.
So this is part of getting patty Kane in a rangers jersey me thinks… adding Kane for a 1st and kravtsov is a solid start to a decent package needing one more solid piece.
So this is part of getting patty Kane in a rangers jersey me thinks… adding Kane for a 1st and kravtsov is a solid start to a decent package needing one more solid piece.
We'd go off the board for Hootie McBoob.
HockeyBasedNYC
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JCProdigy
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Just looking back at some of the Rangers own drafted players in that range (ish)
19th - Braden Schneider (could be developing into a top 4 D)
21st - Filip Chytil (Could solidify himself as a good middle 6F this year)
15th - JT Miller (Turned into a top line player)
19th - Chris Kreider (Consistent top 6F)
17th - Alexei Cherepanov (RIP)
12th - Marc Staal (Top 4D until injuries took it from him)
Good return value for Lundqvist with the way the situation played out. Not too surprised in the eventual return as GMs probably don't come at trades with the same mindsets as fans, really for two reasons:
1) If you have a need and value a player to fill that need then you trade the least you have to, to get it done but you still have to be willing to be bold and give up value. Otherwise, you don't get the player nor fill your need.
2) While other GMs are competition you still have to have good relationships with them to achieve your goals. Bending them over a barrel for a one time "win" does not do so. Example? Somebody mentioned Skjei turning into Schneider. Gorton was likely able to do the Skjei trade because he didn't burn that bridge in the Fox trade. It's also a reason why you rarely see offer sheets.
I mean its true we really are. And for the naysayers who just hate Drury because they have this incredibly high pedestal they sit on, this might have been the best path to getting a center for Lundkvist. I know they expected a team to trade us a center for Lundkvist but that obviously wasn’t on the table. Drury may ultimately be able to draft a center that could be better than some of the names we speculated about such as Turcotte, Bourque, etc.
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There absolutely would be room for Nils here, it just might be on the left side. And not necessarily immediately.
Terrible trade for us. Two key future components for a guy who walks after 90 days and maybe increases our Cup odds like 5%. Hard pass.
Elite centers and/or elite center depth wins in this league.
Rangers having two 1st round picks in the 2023 draft, while still being a competitive playoff team is truly magical.
DanielBrassard
It's all so tiresome
I expect that will be on the Rangers radar but it's not going to happen until closer to the TD.
HockeyBasedNYC
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What’s the odds Dallas makes the playoffs this year?
They have options, but I really hope they hold onto those two picks until draft day (provided it’s <10). That’s when they’ll be worth the most
They moved around a bunch of picks at the deadline and they replenished basically everything they sent out with picks in stronger drafts with out giving up much of any consequence.
Chalfdiggity3
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First time im seeing this, to all the haters again who have no idea what other gms think of players.. Nils nets this which is spot on. Great job Drury
will1066
If you score four, you better f'n win the game
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That's a stretch, I think. It'd be asking a lot of Nils, with little to nil N.A. experience, to play on his non-natural side.
Decent odds I'd say.
Granted, they got absolutely clown pounded by Calgary and only went to 7 games because of one of the greatest goaltending performances ever, but they're pretty good.
They are pretty old though and they've got Benn and Seguin eating a ton of money and neither have been very good for a while. Losing Klingberg hurts.
I wouldn't bet on a down year for them but it wouldn't surprise me if that pick ended up being really high this year and kicked over to next year... where it would also be really high.
HockeyBasedNYC
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Some of the names surrounding deals for first round picks in the 23’ draft:
Reinhart
Chariot
Kuemper
Hagel
Lundkvist
Reinhart
Chariot
Kuemper
Hagel
Lundkvist
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Barnaby
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Draft a North American unless he’s a can’t miss kid. Our European picks haven’t panned out as well as the local boys. That’s not a knock on the kids. It’s a knock on our amateur scouting in those areas. Hopefully Sykora gets us trending back to positive.
McRanger92
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Having 2 firsts in a deep draft coming up is how you keep Cup windows open for a decade. I do not buy the Kane to NYR chatter as anything more than media speculation. Drury has shown that he’s not interested in star chasing and prefers to acquire guys who fit the mold and the last thing we need is another offensively inclined winger. This team is deeper coming into the season than last years.
Btw, Drury getting a 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th minimum for 2 guys who didnt want to be here (Georgiev/Lundkvist) and reconciling with Kravtsov is great work. Doing what’s best for the team
Btw, Drury getting a 1st, 2nd, 3rd & 4th minimum for 2 guys who didnt want to be here (Georgiev/Lundkvist) and reconciling with Kravtsov is great work. Doing what’s best for the team
HockeyBasedNYC
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There is definitely a potential for something really big with that pick in 23 or 24 if things don’t work out down there in Dallas.
They have 11 free agents (only 4 restricted) going into next summer. If they have a shitty season there could be a lot of turnover going into 24.
Barnaby
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Wouldn't surprise me tbh.
Not that I think that Dallas pick will be #11 or that he'll fall that far anyway.
Regardless, If that pick is in the top half of the draft, we'll probably walk away with a really good player who is probably North American.
RickChartraw
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gravey9
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Surprised at the value Drury was able to get with this timing. Thought it might have to wait til the summer and still the value is solid. Wish the pick was merely top 5 protected. But it’s still strong value. Rangers tend to make strong picks i. 10-20 range. And as others have stated, hope we keep both firsts. I think our 2nd round pick in 2023 may be in jeopardy. We will need to replenish bottom 6 and bottom pair d for playoffs. But I hope we don’t have to go big game hunting.
