Confirmed with Link: Nils Lundkvist Requests Trade

[Ola]

The downside with trading Nils is that we know 200% that we will get a long term injury at RD early in the season if he is traded.

 

[romba]

How many games did Jones refuse to dress for?

0, but he stomped his feet and slammed doors and was heard saying I HATE YOU! when Drury told him to go to his room

 

[bleedblue94]

Nils is still so overrated around here. He is a physically small defenseman that has shown no substantial offensive game in na although he has put up points in Europe. If he was 3" taller and 30lbs stronger then you look past the offensive translation stalling but he isn't. If you are the size Nils is you need to be exceptional offensively to survive in this league because while the elite skaters can get away with being undersized physical stature still generally matters on the back end in this league and teams know that.

If Nils wasn't an nyr pick people here would be calling him David Runblad 2.0 although Nils is much better than him defensively. His size will just hold him back unless the offense comes to justify his place somewhat within a lineup

 

[egelband]

The downside with trading Nils is that we know 200% that we will get a long term injury at RD early in the season if he is traded.

Yep. That’s why I think the move is to rotate him with Schneider paired with Lindgren. Keep seven defensemen involved. See what happens. Schneider has been good but sophomore slump is a thing. He’ll benefit from some days off. Maybe Nils could even play the left a bit with Trouba too. No team gets through a season with just six defensemen.

 

[eco's bones]

Are people still thinking if we don't trade him he's going to show up for camp after he said he wasn't? I don't. If someone says he/she are going to do something I usually take them at their word. So if we don't move him I'm guessing he's in Sweden and not here and not going to be part of the equation if one of our RD's get hurt.

 

[egelband]

Are people still thinking if we don't trade him he's going to show up for camp after he said he wasn't? I don't. If someone says he/she are going to do something I usually take them at their word. So if we don't move him I'm guessing he's in Sweden and not here and not going to be part of the equation if one of our RD's get hurt.

Has he said he’ll be holding out? I thought he made a trade request only. If he’s holding out, that’s a different story. I wasn’t aware. I hope he changes his mind if so.

 

[nyr2k2]

Has he said he’ll be holding out? I thought he made a trade request only. If he’s holding out, that’s a different story. I wasn’t aware. I hope he changes his mind if so.

Brooks said in the original report that Lundkvist was unlikely to report to camp if he wasn't dealt. Then the other day Arthur Staple said that a source said it was like 80% or something that Lundkvist wouldn't report if he wasn't dealt. I'm not sure that it's a certainty, but it does seem like a very real possibility.

 

[chosen]

0, but he stomped his feet and slammed doors and was heard saying I HATE YOU! when Drury told him to go to his room

So, it was a steaming heap of bullshit.

 

[egelband]

Brooks said in the original report that Lundkvist was unlikely to report to camp if he wasn't dealt. Then the other day Arthur Staple said that a source said it was like 80% or something that Lundkvist wouldn't report if he wasn't dealt. I'm not sure that it's a certainty, but it does seem like a very real possibility.

would be a shame because - just looking at the camp roster - it seems he’s almost a shoo-in to make the team.

 

[nyr2k2]

would be a shame because - just looking at the camp roster - it seems he’s almost a shoo-in to make the team.

Sounds like the 3 RD are set with Trouba, Fox, and Schneider, and 2 LD with Miller and Lindgren. So there's one spot up for grabs and I guess the thinking is that Jones has the inside track there, maybe, but that in any event Lundkvist would still have to win a spot and then it's likely on the left--and I guess he's not interested in getting third pair minutes with no real PP time, and wants to go somewhere with a less-established D chart.

 

[egelband]

Sounds like the 3 RD are set with Trouba, Fox, and Schneider, and 2 LD with Miller and Lindgren. So there's one spot up for grabs and I guess the thinking is that Jones has the inside track there, maybe, but that in any event Lundkvist would still have to win a spot and then it's likely on the left--and I guess he's not interested in getting third pair minutes with no real PP time, and wants to go somewhere with a less-established D chart.

I get it. But we all know seven or eight defensemen get significant time every year on every team. If Nils is gonna be on the NHL roster making NHL money, and able to at least showcase himself…on a contender, no less…I don’t know what else he can reasonably expect. Especially after last season. It’s not like he blew the doors off the AHL, let alone the NHL.
I mean, it’s possible he’s not even considered a hopeful to make the team as the 7D. And if that’s the case and he knows it - sure, force a trade. But does anyone think Hajek is blocking him? If so, well, either Nils is not that good or the rangers are off their rocker.
Also, another factor, there are a ton of experienced defensemen squeezed into PTOs. The competition for those 6/7D slots is going to be fierce. How many cushy landing spots are there?
Seems to me he should be the 7D and also I think that’s pretty fair and good for both Nils and the Rangers.

 

[nyr2k2]

I get it. But we all know seven or eight defensemen get significant time every year on every team. If Nils is gonna be on the NHL roster making NHL money, and able to at least showcase himself…on a contender, no less…I don’t know what else he can reasonably expect. Especially after last season. It’s not like he blew the doors off the AHL, let alone the NHL.
I mean, it’s possible he’s not even considered a hopeful to make the team as the 7D. And if that’s the case and he knows it - sure, force a trade. But does anyone think Hajek is blocking him? If so, well, either Nils is not that good or the rangers are off their rocker.
Also, another factor, there are a ton of experienced defensemen squeezed into PTOs. The competition for those 6/7D slots is going to be fierce. How many cushy landing spots are there?
Seems to me he should be the 7D and also I think that’s pretty fair and good for both Nils and the Rangers.

Yeah, I generally agree. I understand why he wants to be traded to a team that maybe has a more immediate need for what he brings, but I feel like he should at least report and give it a go. I don't think he helps himself if he doesn't report.

 

[savebyrichter94]

Yeah, I generally agree. I understand why he wants to be traded to a team that maybe has a more immediate need for what he brings, but I feel like he should at least report and give it a go. I don't think he helps himself if he doesn't report.

I agree, I’m not a fan of this ongoing trend of younger players who haven’t proven much making demands of playing time, roster spots or even money coming off their ELC, I get where he’s coming from but how about zip it and show up with something to prove? Make the organization have to make a difficult decision and peak the interest of other teams through your play because if you’re good enough, one way or another, you’re gonna land on your feet somewhere

There are exceptions of course where the player(s) undoubtedly deserve what they’re asking for but it just seems like any semi decent young player thinks they can push their weight around and make demands these days because a select few at the top were accommodated

 

[egelband]

Yeah, I generally agree. I understand why he wants to be traded to a team that maybe has a more immediate need for what he brings, but I feel like he should at least report and give it a go. I don't think he helps himself if he doesn't report.

Totally. The weakness in Nils’ argument is that there aren’t many teams looking for him. Who’s gonna give him a top six defense spot, let alone power play time. I mean, it seems pretty flakey, more than anything else.
Which is why I think he ends up reporting, makes the team as 7D, and gets a pretty good amount of ice time.

 

[McRanger92]

Totally. The weakness in Nils’ argument is that there aren’t many teams looking for him. Who’s gonna give him a top six defense spot, let alone power play time. I mean, it seems pretty flakey, more than anything else.
Which is why I think he ends up reporting, makes the team as 7D, and gets a pretty good amount of ice time.

Coyotes can give him the role he wants. If he thinks Hartford is bad, wait until hes playing in an NCAA rink in front of hundreds of apathetic fans.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

The downside with trading Nils is that we know 200% that we will get a long term injury at RD early in the season if he is traded.

This is our hell, Murphys law. Troubas groin is goin to explode the second the league approves the deal

 

[will1066]

The guy always looked like a Swedish George W. Bush to me, and the trade request just reinforces that.

 

[Unknownbutfamous1]

Apologies if this has been brought up, but what do we think about this scenario?

We tell Nils to go back to Sweden and make his money for 2 years and when Trouba's NMC turns to a NTC, we trade him and Nils takes his place.

 

[GAGLine]

Apologies if this has been brought up, but what do we think about this scenario?

We tell Nils to go back to Sweden and make his money for 2 years and when Trouba's NMC turns to a NTC, we trade him and Nils takes his place.

I imagine Nils wants to play in the NHL sooner rather than later. And it's probably not a great idea to tell anyone that you plan to trade the guy you just named captain in a couple years.

 

[TGWL]

Arthur Staple


Which team offered a high 2nd round pick? Buffalo? Montreal? Buffalo has the Flyers 2nd in June. Gorton paid two 2nds to Carolina for Fox. He could have waited one more year and signed Fox as a free agent. Two 2nds from the Habs. 2023 and 2025.

There is an 80% chance Lundkvist will stay in Sweden until a trade is made. It would be hard to trade him if the Rangers loaned him to Lulea who is not looking for a short term commitment. They would want him to play the entire season there.

Drury can play hardball here. If you don’t report to Rangers camp on September 21, I will loan you to Lulea for the entire season. I will retain your rights. The Lundkvist trade is not making or breaking the Rangers season.

Staple believes the Rangers could bring in Nathan Beaulieu as depth on D. 7/8 D in the organization. He played for Gallant and Kelly in the Q.

Paying for Fox and bringing him in early was 100% the right move. The wait and see approach to get Fox for free, season later, would have been the wrong move.

 

[eco's bones]

I get it. But we all know seven or eight defensemen get significant time every year on every team. If Nils is gonna be on the NHL roster making NHL money, and able to at least showcase himself…on a contender, no less…I don’t know what else he can reasonably expect. Especially after last season. It’s not like he blew the doors off the AHL, let alone the NHL.
I mean, it’s possible he’s not even considered a hopeful to make the team as the 7D. And if that’s the case and he knows it - sure, force a trade. But does anyone think Hajek is blocking him? If so, well, either Nils is not that good or the rangers are off their rocker.
Also, another factor, there are a ton of experienced defensemen squeezed into PTOs. The competition for those 6/7D slots is going to be fierce. How many cushy landing spots are there?
Seems to me he should be the 7D and also I think that’s pretty fair and good for both Nils and the Rangers.

I think a big issue for the Rangers would be playing time. It's not exactly the same situation as with Hajek who seems to have plateaued with his progression at least 2 years ago and has been doing a lot of sitting. The Rangers will want Nils to play and the likelihood of him getting significant time with the Rangers (unless there's an injury to one of Fox, Trouba or Schneider) is not that good. I mean I would play Schneider as much as possible. When all is said and done he won that job away from Nils last year. In Hartford (and especially if Jones makes the Rangers roster) Nils would/should get plenty of ice time and be the guy running the power play. That I think is what the Rangers have in mind for him this year and I think Nils and his agent understand it that way too and I don't think Nils is that stoked about that. He wants to be in the NHL. It's understandable and IMO it's why he asked for a trade. From a Rangers management perspective after Schneider took the job I also think they view Nils more as a trade chip (even before Nils trade request) than a future Ranger. It seems to me like he was going to get moved somewhere this year anyway....some time before or at the deadline.

 

[eco's bones]

I imagine Nils wants to play in the NHL sooner rather than later. And it's probably not a great idea to tell anyone that you plan to trade the guy you just named captain in a couple years.

I find it highly unlikely the Rangers moving Trouba the next couple years. He's an every day all situations player who is easily our most physical defenseman.....and now he's the Captain of the team. I think the Rangers look at Schneider on the right side kind of like they look at K'Andre on the left side. He might not put up a lot of points but he's big, strong, steady and smart. When Fox came in he kind of changed the dynamics of our defense. Coming out of college a lot of people knew that Fox had the creative offensive skills but wondered seriously how well he could defend.......and Adam put all those worries to rest. He defends very well.....and Tony was there and Nils already drafted and it didn't stop the Rangers from drafting Schneider anyway. We had all five at the same time. IMO Fox made the other smaller offensive RD expendable. Tony has very very good offensive skills too but he doesn't defend nearly as well as Fox and now Tony is gone. So now it is Adam, Jacob, Braden and Nils and if there's an odd man out it's Nils.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Can anyone explain why this hasn't triggered everyone like when Kravtsov left, only difference is that Kravtsov actually showed up at camp and then left, by the sounds of it this kid isn't even gonna attempt to make the team and doesn't want to report to Hartford so he's looking for a trade. There is a spot open on the left side if he wants to compete for that spot, and maybe if he shows them he is the next best dman they might even move Schneider to the left side who knows?

 

[Fitzy]

Can anyone explain why this hasn't triggered everyone like when Kravtsov left, only difference is that Kravtsov actually showed up at camp and then left, by the sounds of it this kid isn't even gonna attempt to make the team and doesn't want to report to Hartford so he's looking for a trade. There is a spot open on the left side if he wants to compete for that spot, and maybe if he shows them he is the next best dman they might even move Schneider to the left side who knows?

Because Kravtsov did it twice, and managed to play so poorly in Russia his first time that he was sent to their minor league. Embarrassing.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Are people still thinking if we don't trade him he's going to show up for camp after he said he wasn't? I don't. If someone says he/she are going to do something I usually take them at their word. So if we don't move him I'm guessing he's in Sweden and not here and not going to be part of the equation if one of our RD's get hurt.

He never said that though. Brooks threw that line in at the end basically as a rumor. Way too much misinformation going around. Lets see where Nils is in 10 days as camp approaches, i’m sure he will be there.