Hes not on the roster for rookie camp.
Most of the other guys (if not all of them) have shown up already.
Pretty obvious what is going on.
Confirmed with Link: Nils Lundkvist Requests Trade
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Hes not on the roster for rookie camp.
Most of the other guys (if not all of them) have shown up already.
Pretty obvious what is going on.
The Crypto Guy
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There is one player who played games for the Rangers at that camp, and even he shouldn't be there as it's under him. Means absolutely nothing. Lets wait till the training camp roster is released before shitting on him.
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All i can say here is we'd be looking at Lundkvist a lot differently if Patrick Nemeth was never on last years roster.
Fitzy
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You think he would have played better with Libor Hajek or Anthony Bitteto?
effen
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A very dynamic partner would have covered up a lot of his warts. Like, Cale Makar.
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UnSandvich
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Yeah.
Well duh. But also an NHL-average 3rd pairing Dman, instead of whatever atrocity Nemeth was last season.
The Crypto Guy
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Haha, fair enough!! Look i’ll be pissed too if he doesnt show, but as of now it was just a silly line Brooks threw in at the end of his clickbait article. I’m not ready to lynch him yet until proven guilty (no shows).
HockeyBasedNYC
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If I had to bet Id say he’s not gonna show to main camp.
I think if he was he’d be on the rookie camp roster like Jones & Robertson.
But it is what it is. Disappointing, no doubt.
Beer League Sniper
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Rookie camp is optional, whereas I believe he's contractually obligated to show up to main camp. If he's threatening to not show up to main camp, even if it's a bluff, you can bet he's definitely not showing up to anything he's not contractually obligated to.
I still don't understand the posturing, though. His best shot at getting what he wants is to light the world on fire in preseason. Either he earns a spot out of camp, and he's on an NHL roster like he wants, or he shows another team that he's NHL-ready, and they pony up the assets to acquire him.
Still, it's quite telling that Jones, Robertston, Emberson, Pajuniemi, and Khodorenko are all coming to Rookie camp without (public) complaint, but Nils, who really proved nothing during his time in Hartford, is absent.
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Yeah. Even Kravtsov never skipped camp.
Don’t think that happens tho. It would be untenable and basically, dumb.
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"it's under him"?
I dunno
Jones, is still only 21. 18 months ago was still playing NCAA
you need guys in these groups to be de facto leaders, both during drills and especially for the competitive scrimmages
I expect Jones. Khodo, others welcome this as ramp up to big camp
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I'm sure Jones sees this rookie camp as a chance to dominate and show the Rangers just what he can do.
There have been a lot of posts about being disappointed in Lundqvist if he's not willing to compete with Schneider for the 3rd RD position.
I think that misses the point.
From his point of view, whether he is right or wrong, after dominating in the SHL, he wants a chance to be a top four defenseman and run the power play. Barring injury that is never going to happen to him with the Rangers. Even if he competes and beats out Schneider or wins the 3rd LD position, he's playing 12 minutes a game with at best 2nd PP time and we know what that is with this first PP. He's never going to run the PP with Fox here.
I think the comment from Brooks tells the story:
“Lundkvist has no issues with management. He just sees an unyielding roadblock ahead.”
He sees no chance to have the opportunity he wants with the Rangers. I think it's hard to fault a player who wants to be put in a situation that gives him the best chance to achieve his dreams.
I saw several of his games with Hartford. When I did my end of the year Hartford season review of Lundqvist I pointed out that what we saw at Hartford was pretty much what we saw with the Rangers. And what we saw was not the player that the top evaluators thought we would see. Maybe they are wrong. Maybe he had a hard time adjusting to the US and NHL hockey. Maybe the smaller ice made him uncomfortable. Maybe he was told he needed to focus on defense and so we didn't see the offensive skills he has. Maybe it's a combination of these factors.
I would be surprised if he is not traded. When the Rangers drafted him the team had a huge shortage at RD. No Trouba, no Fox, no Schneider. I still think it was a good pick that because of unforeseen circumstances turned a shortage at RD into a surplus. And if he is traded we'll see how good he can be. But I think we should stop with the attacks on him just because he wants to achieve his dreams.
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If he wanted to impress management and earn a spot he'd be here at the rookie camp. We can say let's wait for the sky to be failing before actually saying it's falling, but pieces are starting to come down. He has no issues with management, so just report and then get traded. If he doesn't report to training camp, I don't care who says there's no issues. There's an issue... Missing camp doesn't benefit him just because there's a roadblock. I get the idea of threatening to skip camp to hurry and facilitate a trade, but if there's no trade, you show up.
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I mean, he should dominate so not sure what exactly that is going to prove. He just played a whole year against talent much better than whatever team Philly is going to ice for those 2 games.
It would be more alarming if he didnt dominate.
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If he deserves those things based on his play they will come. Playing in the SHL means little. Come show you are a top 4 Dman. Come show you are a top PP guy. If you do we will find a spot for you or move you for a team that sees that in you. If he showed he was that kind of Dman in the AHL teams would be knocking on our door. Bottom line is walk the walk. Forget the talk.
LORDE
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Ehhhhh people twist themselves into all kinds of knots to justify their own hopes.
He's holding out of camp, his name isn't on the roster & he's demanded a trade.
But all is well.
Just like Fox in CGY
or...
Fox in CAR
It's fine. It's just not fine for the NYR
(this time)
Rempe73
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Yea. I didn’t see any flashes that would make me think differently. That’s the difference between Nils and Kakko. Even though he’s still young, Kakko has shown flashes of high-end, dynamic skill. Nils…not really.
The two are not at all comparable. Not one bit. So the difference is a mere blanket opinion of “flashes”. Its not that simple. Not to mention Kakko has had his up and down moments while being given much more ample time to get adjusted to the NHL level. Nils has not been afforded that same opportunity while being stapled next to Nemeth in his first year. And the analytics showed that when he was away from Nemeth his overall play was much more positive. A putrid assessment.
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jerseyjinx94
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The thing is, it sucks as fans to continuously draft these young guys and have them want out, but there is a culmination of factors that lead to this. Number 1, the roadblock. It’s not a lack of compete level thing. More opportunity leads to more ice time which leads to more money sooner. Lundkvist playing in Hartford again does not help him get a lucrative first contract. That’s is a huge part of why these guys want to be in the NHL.
The Rangers are full of talent, and veteran talent, which blocks their opportunity. Some of the guys are willing to put the work in and work their way through it but you better believe the Rangers have a deep veteran team has cost Kakko, Chytil, and probably Lafreniere, Kravtsov, and Miller, money. This is their job, career, yes it’s a game and their passion but they are trying to make career moves to maximize their experience and value. You can’t blame them for that. The organization collected assets but didn’t prioritize those assets. A very strange and questionable posture.
The Rangers are full of talent, and veteran talent, which blocks their opportunity. Some of the guys are willing to put the work in and work their way through it but you better believe the Rangers have a deep veteran team has cost Kakko, Chytil, and probably Lafreniere, Kravtsov, and Miller, money. This is their job, career, yes it’s a game and their passion but they are trying to make career moves to maximize their experience and value. You can’t blame them for that. The organization collected assets but didn’t prioritize those assets. A very strange and questionable posture.
Unpredictable1
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I have to say I agree with you there.
That said, I also would rather we keep NIls in hopes there's more than what I saw, because I believe there will be.
Nils hasn't impressed me, but, I haven't seen enough. I hope he stays, gets motivated and pushes others as well.
Do we even know this was actually a thing? The whole trade thing? I saw comments blaming his agent to stir interest etc - do we even know if this is true? (maybe it was already mentioned and I missed it)
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he doesn't want to earn a spot. he's not getting past Schneider (barring injury). that's why he requested a trade. why would he risk getting injured in a lame rookie camp? it sucks for us but it makes no sense for Nils to go "impress" other GMs and pump up his value. Rookie camp is one thing. Let's see if he is skipping on main camp.
