Confirmed with Link: Nils Lundkvist Requests Trade

[McRanger92]

It wasn't, but it came up in conversation with one of the Wolf Pack players.

Rumors shouldnt be treated like common knowledge. Even so, the difference between Jones and Lundkvist is that Zac is currently in NY training for the season with fellow players and Nils is letting his agent call the shots to the media. Its got nothing to do with their country of origin

 

[Beer League Sniper]

I can see being disappointed, even pissed, about being sent down. But, I don't believe for one second that Zac Jones refused to play. Maybe you worded it poorly, but there's zero evidence of what you're claiming.

Graves had played 2 full seasons in the AHL, one of which he was an all-star, and never got a sniff of the NHL. And still, if he requested a trade or was threatening not to report, he was very, very quiet about it.

Nils was in NY almost as long as he was in Hartford for. I understand you know some of these Euro kids personally, and want to defend them, but the situations you're trying to draw comparisons to aren't remotely similar.

It's not easy crossing the pond. It's a difficult adjustment, both in the world of hockey, and culturally/socially. I get that. But Nils is 100% in ludicrous territory here. Both 3rd pair spots are up for grabs, and he won't even try to win one.

 

[mas0764]

Stop being such a fan boy

It’s 100% Nils and it’s the right move for him and the team.

Stop being such a hater.

 

[mas0764]

Whats the big hoop over Mysak? Put up very average numbers in the OHL for a NHL draft pick. What else does he bring?

Edit - Habs voted him their 19TH best prospect. And we are trading what we voted as our #1 prospect just this past Jan for him. No thanks! Clearly most Hab fans don't even see him as anything special.

That's us basically trading Karl Henriksson for Kaiden Guhle.

Nils is getting underrated on around here because a couple of prolific posters shat on him for the past 9 months.

We will probably be disappointed in the return because Drury kinda sucks as a GM and has mismanaged the situation, but Nils should have fetched far more than Mysak had he been moved at the right time.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Here guys, here is the player you want for top prospect Nils:

2022 Montreal Canadiens Top 25 Under 25: #19 Jan Myšák

Increased competition sees Myšák lose seven spots compared to last year’s list.

www.habseyesontheprize.com

Man what I would do to STEAL another teams #19th prospect for Nils! Some of you are grossly overrating this guy if you think we should trade Nils for him...

 

[McRanger92]

Nils is getting underrated on around here because a couple of prolific posters shat on him for the past 9 months.

We will probably be disappointed in the return because Drury kinda sucks as a GM and has mismanaged the situation, but Nils should have fetched far more than Mysak had he been moved at the right time.

Like you do with Drury? He's done much better in his position than Nils has in his

 

[GENESISPuck94]

Jeez Molly, I know you both went to Umass, but where was this spark Jones showed last year you speak of?

He scored 35 points in the AHL last season. He's outscored Lundkvist in the AHL and NHL so far.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Rumors shouldnt be treated like common knowledge. Even so, the difference between Jones and Lundkvist is that Zac is currently in NY training for the season with fellow players and Nils is letting his agent call the shots to the media. Its got nothing to do with their country of origin

Yes, that was my point.

 

[mas0764]

Like you do with Drury? He's done much better in his position than Nils has in his

Generally you don't hire a GM with lots of upside thinking he's going to get better and better because he's like 21 years old. Mistakes from players with upside are expected and forgivable, GMs not so much.

I give credit when Drury is due credit like his trade deadline, which was fine.

He absolutely deserves well-warranted criticism for his handling of the Buchnevich trade, the Kravtsov disaster, and now the Nils mess.

I will in fact give Drury credit for rehabbing the Kravtsov situation if he can get it back to him being a contributing young talent, but that won't mean he didn't deserve criticism to begin with. It's been one mess after another for Drury, a string of slightly overpaid contract extensions, and a Final Four run from a team full of players he did not acquire himself.

There's no reason why Drury gets the credit he gets around here except for the fact that people like that Gorton's team went to the Conference Finals last year and they are happy about whoever is in the drivers seat for that.

He hired Gallant, fantastic, a coaching hire so obvious literally everyone on the board was begging for it months in advance.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Sandstrom was my first favorite Ranger, right before Richter.

He was a stud. He had some really good years on the Rangers. He scored 40 playing with Poddubny, and then was basically a PPG player Leetch's first full year.

He started with Brooks, somehow survived the three years of Esposito insanity while almost being traded like every other week (including for Gretzky) and then was finally traded in early 1990 by Smith with Granato for Nicholls because the Rangers needed center ice help (Carey Wilson was injured most of that year).

He wasn't quite a superstar, but in those days when the Rangers were more of a blue collar team and run somewhat like a middle market team, he was the closest thing they had to one.

I'm happy he won a Cup at the end of his career as a role player for Detroit. I wish he'd do more for the Rangers alumni. The last time he was over was the 90th Anniversary Home Opener 2016-17 when they brought back guys like Mike Rogers and Martin St. Louis. They had a video following him and Kasparitus around before they came out on the ice, reminiscing about their days is Pittsburgh together.

I agree with you. The team or Dolan seems largely about the 1994 team but we have had many cool players before them. The reason I brought up Tomas was I think his go home to Sweden threat backfired on him a couple of times leading to trades. Nils should just come earn a job. Walk the walk. If he is a top 4 guy show us. We want that.

 

[Kocur Dill]

You're talking PP and that's totally different.

"If" he can adjust. And the way he skates I don't think it's an out of the ballpark ask, he could partner with Schneids on the LD slot.

Although I think Robertson is the darkhorse for that spot with Jones as the expendable.

In my perfect world I'd like to see a PMD on the Left to balance out the pairs.

I played "oft hand" with more success so I have a soft spot for guys who can utilize that in their offensive tool box even though Ill admit, at the pro level its rare and not so practical.

 

[huerter]

#CisedForSandin

 

[Mac n Gs]

Whats the big hoop over Mysak? Put up very average numbers in the OHL for a NHL draft pick. What else does he bring?

Edit - Habs voted him their 19TH best prospect. And we are trading what we voted as our #1 prospect just this past Jan for him. No thanks! Clearly most Hab fans don't even see him as anything special.

That's us basically trading Karl Henriksson for Kaiden Guhle.

He's fast and stood out as an older player at the WJC, but it should be noted that his production is still over a PPG despite spending a good chunk of time as Hamilton's 3C behind Logan Morrison and Mason McTavish down the stretch. He definitely filled an important role for them, and I can see him being a decent bottom-6 contributor at the NHL level, but I wouldn't be happy with him as the main piece in return for Nils. I think MTL has better pieces that are closer to equivalent value that would suit us a bit better.

 

[bobbop]

I personally like the idea of Jones and Robertson rotating as 6-7 depending on opponent. I don’t see much future for Hajek.

 

[duhmetreE]

Stop being such a hater.

If speaking truth is hating, then you hate the truth.

I personally like the idea of Jones and Robertson rotating as 6-7 depending on opponent. I don’t see much future for Hajek.

I'm probably in a smaaaall contingent that thinks he can become a solid NHL defenseman.

He needs to play though. Dragging him around as a practice dummy doesn't help.

 

[Chytilmania]

Whats the big hoop over Mysak? Put up very average numbers in the OHL for a NHL draft pick. What else does he bring?

Edit - Habs voted him their 19TH best prospect. And we are trading what we voted as our #1 prospect just this past Jan for him. No thanks! Clearly most Hab fans don't even see him as anything special.

That's us basically trading Karl Henriksson for Kaiden Guhle.

Nils + Henriksson for Guhle + Mysak
there you go

Brooks conveniently forgot to mention the real reason he requested a trade is because Sam kept calling him Nilsson.

 

[bobbop]

Whats the big hoop over Mysak? Put up very average numbers in the OHL for a NHL draft pick. What else does he bring?

Edit - Habs voted him their 19TH best prospect. And we are trading what we voted as our #1 prospect just this past Jan for him. No thanks! Clearly most Hab fans don't even see him as anything special.

That's us basically trading Karl Henriksson for Kaiden Guhle.

I thought Mysak played pretty well at the WJC. That’s a consideration.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

I thought Mysak played pretty well at the WJC. That’s a consideration.

That’s just one 2 week summer tournament. No way i’m going by just that when trading one of our top prospects. Lets talk Roy..

 

[bobbop]

That’s just one 2 week summer tournament. No way i’m going by just that when trading one of our top prospects. Lets talk Roy..

Did you watch the games? He passed my eye test.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Did you watch the games? He passed my eye test.

I saw his team a couple times but Nope... Not enough to trade away one of our top prospects. It’s great he got hot for a small summer tournament, that doesn’t change much.

 

[Kocur26]

I haven’t followed the story at all because I’m not in hockey mode… But this sounds like a fkn disaster.

 

[eco's bones]

Again Nils would have to beat out Schneider to have a spot on the Rangers and that at the moment doesn't look good. Someone remarked to me that in this case 'nothing really went wrong between the Rangers and Nils....if anything we are in this situation with him cause so many other things went right'......we had overloaded on this position and it goes back actually further than Nils. A couple years ago we had all of Fox, Trouba, DeAngelo with Nils as a top prospect and the Rangers still drafted Schneider--actually moved up to draft him. Schneider is in fact a higher pick 19 in arguably a better draft than Nils 28. But why draft another RD?.....on YouTube we get an idea of why....video of JD looking across the table at Rangers scout Chris Morehouse and asking him if Schneider's the kind of D that you win Cups with? and Morehouse nodding in agreement. The reason is the Rangers loved this player. That doesn't mean they didn't like Nils too or still do but it has put Nils in kind of predicament of where he fits in and right now it's in Hartford and I think both Nils and his agent don't want him in Hartford.....they want him in the NHL.

 

[McRanger92]

Again Nils would have to beat out Schneider to have a spot on the Rangers and that at the moment doesn't look good. Someone remarked to me that in this case 'nothing really went wrong between the Rangers and Nils....if anything we are in this situation with him cause so many other things went right'......we had overloaded on this position and it goes back actually further than Nils. A couple years ago we had all of Fox, Trouba, DeAngelo with Nils as a top prospect and the Rangers still drafted Schneider--actually moved up to draft him. Schneider is in fact a higher pick 19 in arguably a better draft than Nils 28. But why draft another RD?.....on YouTube we get an idea of why....video of JD looking across the table at Rangers scout Chris Morehouse and asking him if Schneider's the kind of D that you win Cups with? and Morehouse nodding in agreement. The reason is the Rangers loved this player. That doesn't mean they didn't like Nils too or still do but it has put Nils in kind of predicament of where he fits in and right now it's in Hartford and I think both Nils and his agent don't want him in Hartford.....they want him in the NHL.

The downside to drafting BPA is that you end up with way to many players without a spot on the big club. And trading from the surplus is fine, but clearly easier said than done. The Gorton (and later Davidson) braintrust didnt draft a center with a premium pick post-Letter, instead loading up on righty defenseman and wingers. Head scratcher.

 

[RangerBoy]

Arthur Staple

Things get tricky if the Rangers don’t trade him and he doesn’t report. The Rangers would have to loan Lundkvist to Luleå, which would be in their interest — it’s hard to trade a prospect, even a good one, if he’s not playing games anywhere. If Lundkvist is loaned to his SHL team and either Drury does find a trade partner or the Rangers have a need to bring him back, it’s a process; Luleå is not looking for a temporary commitment and would need to find a replacement, so a loan doesn’t get undone in days or sometimes even weeks.

As for trades, two sources said that the Rangers have been offered a second-round pick for Lundkvist, an offer that’s been on the table since Claude Lemieux, Lundkvist’s agent, requested a trade before the deadline in March. It’s believed to be a high-second rounder — it was likely for the June draft from a team at the bottom of last season’s standings — and the sources indicated the offer of a second for next year’s draft is still good.

But Drury, as he was with Vitali Kravtsov, is not willing to let go of one of the Rangers’ top prospects for another lottery ticket just yet. That may change in two weeks when Lundkvist likely stays home, but for now, the Rangers are believed to be seeking a young player in return.

It may be difficult to find close to equal value for a player every other team knows won’t play for you. If that player signs in Sweden rather than trying to steal a job in an NHL camp or play lights out in the AHL, then anything close to equal value in a trade is impossible.

Which team offered a high 2nd round pick? Buffalo? Montreal? Buffalo has the Flyers 2nd in June. Gorton paid two 2nds to Carolina for Fox. He could have waited one more year and signed Fox as a free agent. Two 2nds from the Habs. 2023 and 2025.

There is an 80% chance Lundkvist will stay in Sweden until a trade is made. It would be hard to trade him if the Rangers loaned him to Lulea who is not looking for a short term commitment. They would want him to play the entire season there.

Drury can play hardball here. If you don’t report to Rangers camp on September 21, I will loan you to Lulea for the entire season. I will retain your rights. The Lundkvist trade is not making or breaking the Rangers season.

Staple believes the Rangers could bring in Nathan Beaulieu as depth on D. 7/8 D in the organization. He played for Gallant and Kelly in the Q.

 

[RGY]

Arthur Staple


Which team offered a high 2nd round pick? Buffalo? Montreal? Buffalo has the Flyers 2nd in June. Gorton paid two 2nds to Carolina for Fox. He could have waited one more year and signed Fox as a free agent. Two 2nds from the Habs. 2023 and 2025.

There is an 80% chance Lundkvist will stay in Sweden until a trade is made. It would be hard to trade him if the Rangers loaned him to Lulea who is not looking for a short term commitment. They would want him to play the entire season there.

Drury can play hardball here. If you don’t report to Rangers camp on September 21, I will loan you to Lulea for the entire season. I will retain your rights. The Lundkvist trade is not making or breaking the Rangers season.

Staple believes the Rangers could bring in Nathan Beaulieu as depth on D. 7/8 D in the organization. He played for Gallant and Kelly in the Q.

My issue with any talk of a potential return for Nils Lundkvist is that Alex Romanov was just traded for a 13th overall pick. The differences are really that Romanov has played 133 NHL Games with a mere 19 points to show for it. Only 15 more points than Lundkvist. And imo Lundkvist is the one with more upside potential when all is said and done. Yes the big variable here is that we have the guy that has requested a trade, but I would just loan this kid to Sweden, let him tear it up there, unless you get the value you are looking for. And you toll his contract and continue to loan him until he is willing to come back and compete for a spot. We aren’t a charity, we are not here to help out Jeff Gorton and MTL.