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Prospect Info: Nils Lundkvist: Part II
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Yeah you have to think the current situation here with Covid played into this decision because he is ready to make the jump over seas from a development standpoint.
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Kinda glad he ended up having to stay in Sweden another year. Let him marinate. Wish we could’ve done that with Lias but we rushed him in hindsight IMO.
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Not nearly as bad as the US. And hockey is actually starting there before the new season in NA.
Yes, the current situation played into his decision. He will not be able to join the Rangers mid-season. This isn't a situation like Lias who was with the Indians on loan.
Also, a full season in the SHL and CHL, plus national team games, is a much better experience than bus rides to Utica, Rochester and Bridgeport.
He's ready. He dominated last year.
But if he isn't playing regular minutes with the Rangers, I'm fine with him playing another season in the SHL, it's a quality league.
If COVID were to miraculously disappear, I have no doubt Nils would be at training camp in 2020. He made the smart move to continue playing hockey. The situation in the US is a disaster.
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3rd best league in the world. And when you're good enough you can make the jump straight to the NHL.
Aho, Heiskanen, Kopitar, Tarasenko, Kuznetsov, Panarin, Pettersson and Donskoi, to name a few, jumped straight into the NHL when they were ready. Lundkvist at age 21, after 3 full post-draft seasons in the SHL could easily be the next one to do that.
A year in Europe playing against the top teams in the SHL, with the right draw some good Finnish or Swiss teams in the CHL, and the national teams of Russia, Finland and the Czech Republic in the Four Nations tournaments, is IMO better for his development than some bus rides to Utica, Rochester and Bridgeport and playing 3 games in 3 days followed by 4 days of just practice.
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I'm not convinced we're going to have an NHL season next year let alone an AHL season. In that sense Nils does himself and the rest of Rangers fans a favor if there is (as I'm kind of suspecting there will be) an SHL season. He has a place to play in a very good league.
All of your points stand, but Lundkvist could literally be Wayne Gretzky on defense and I’m not sure he’d be able to push Staal out of the lineup. I hope I’m wrong and this is finally the year we let him sit, but I would never be surprised to see Staal beat out someone who is clearly more deserving of playing time.
one has nothing to do with the other. Nils as a RD isn't going to push a LD out of the lineup
I’m responding to a post that starts with “if Lundkvist can’t beat out Staal or Smith” and virtually everything in my post is tongue in cheek.
But, more practically, if Nils is too good to not play in the NHL, someone from the right is moving over, logically Tony. Tony moving to the left could bump Staal out, and Nils earning a spot would be the catalyst for that. You do know that not every team in the NHL has 3 LHD and 3 RHD? Because it doesn’t matter how good Nils is, he’s not pushing any of the roster RHD out, and he also isn’t going to rot in the minors just because we have 3 RHD. Do you know how many teams have uneven splits?
Exactly, Nils to me is another Fox with actually more upside and that is scary for other teams. DeAngelo can move to the left or to wing. I think TDA would be a star wing in this league while still playing the point on the PP. The point is that Lundkvist is way too good to waste another year in the SHL. It's a bad move.
Steven, do you think he might have some kind of opt out clause? Did the release say firm one year contract or was it ambiguous?
I think we should pump the breaks on Nils a bit. I'm happy him and K'Andre aren't being rushed. This is a big boy league and the kid is only 19. Another year or two will make big difference in his strength and stamina. Plus Staal and Smith will be gone so will really give us an idea what the future of the d will look like.
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I don’t see how we fit him into the lineup consistently when we have Trouba/Fox/ADA on the right side.
i don’t think he would have played in the NHL if he came over, and I’d rather have him playing in the SHL next year than the AHL, tbh.
Sounds like it's just a year. He's making sure (as sure as one can be) he has somewhere to play for 20-21.
Even without an out clause, there's a transfer agreement so we can still sign him. We just have to pay a transfer fee.
The SHL can still happen even if attendance is limited.
There are some uncertainties about the AHL this coming year and ensuring playing time for Lundkvist is critical for the Rangers. Lundkvist is likely ready for the NHL but we are overloaded at RD and there is no need to rush him. Let him dominate and grow his confidence and body even more before moving over in another year.
His 3 yr entry level deal will be even nicer at that stage as he will bring even more to the table.
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I think the Rangers will run the Staal and Smith contracts into the ground before Lundkvist gets his shot even if he is the better player.
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Yes. Gunler is not going anywhere. Whoever will draft him will leave him in Sweden
From what his agent told me, there is no clause in his contract. And the window to sign EU prospects is June 15th so he will play the entire season in Sweden unless his team agrees to mutual termination of his SHL contract with approval of the IIHF. @nyr2k2, Transfer agreement doesn't apply once the season has started.
I would have preferred Lundkvist sign an ELC and be assigned to Hartford or Lulea so he would be available for recall if one of the three incumbents on the right side were to get seriously injured.
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