Prospect Info: Nils Lundkvist: Part II
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Oscar Lindberg
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Do I think DeAngelo/Fox could play the left competently? Yeah probably in the short term
Do I expect the Rangers to do that though? No I don't
The reality is someone on the right is going to be moved, who it is will be determined in the next 12-18 months. At the end of the day, it's all good because whoever they choose to move, will probably bring back something great
Do I expect the Rangers to do that though? No I don't
The reality is someone on the right is going to be moved, who it is will be determined in the next 12-18 months. At the end of the day, it's all good because whoever they choose to move, will probably bring back something great
Better defensive awareness, same difficulty with the game. He has never done it.
In short, I think that moving ANY of the RD to the other side is a pipe dream that only exists on this board. I have no inside knowledge, but doubt that management is considering it.
I know that this is something that people want to do because they want to see Fox, DeAngelo & Lundqvist all here and playing, but the chances of those 3 being in the line up at the same time, is slim at best.
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It doesn’t only exist on this board. Vegas plays 5 LHD, Calgary plays 5 LHD, Ottawa plays 5 LHD, Dallas plays 4 LHD, Detroit plays 4 RHD. I’m not going to go through every team but this isn’t like the Manhattan Project.
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romba
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While I understand your point, the guy with possibly the best release in the entire world, who is also phenomenal at using dmen to assist in screening his shot and also at weaving his rocket through multiple bodies, is not a great example to prove it can be done in the NHL by Nils.Have you ever watched Ovechkin?He sets up camp, roasts some marshmellows, heats up some coco and then waits for the puck to one-time it past the goalie, the same way Lundkvist did these past 4 games
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It hasn’t been regular, (except DeAngelo-Fox when the Rangers are trailing
DeAngelo-Fox | 110:09 | 65.04 CF%
Fox-Trouba | 61:31 | 59.26 CF%
DeAngelo-Trouba | 37:09 | 54.26%
DeAngelo-Fox have played significantly more than DeAngelo-Trouba, and so cannot be attributed to randomness. What’s more is all of these pairs have done very well in their time together.
Not that I disagree with your premise or disagree with the idea that ADA-Fox would be a great pair, but one note - a lot of their time together seems to have been either in the waning moments of games when we're down by a goal or for strategic (often post-PK) offensive zone faceoffs. I imagine those two scenarios create a significant bump in CF%.
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Probably, but I would have included it even if it was bad, and really the main takeaway is that they do play together.
Not playing the top 4 defensemen in your organization because of handedness would be quite a head scratcher. Teams do this all the time. It’s pretty clear none of the 4 are going anywhere either.
I don’t know who is going to switch sides but I can say confidently that it’s happening.
What do you think you think is the more likely alternative? A trade before next season? Lundkvist in the AHL the whole season? I don’t see it.
Nils is s ready now.
Teams do not do this all the time and there are very few players that have done it.
Just as confidently I can say that not only is it not happening, the chances of you ever seeing DeAngelo, Fox & Lundqvist in the lineup at the same time, is also likely not happening. Barring a major injury to one of the current RD.
That is exactly what is the most likely scenario for next season.
Based on what? Performing well in Sweden?
Sounds like we have a totally different perspective on the talent and readiness of this player and a team’s willingness to play 4 righties. I look forward to revisiting this thread next season with you.
ADA should be the one to go... He'll bring back the biggest return and will offer the most significant cap relief.... Can't imagine there's any serious trade market for Trouba and there would be a very limited window to get that done before his full NTC starts...
If ADA gets traded, I'd want the LHD version of him lol
D-men that have the offensive game he has and can put up near 60 points don't exactly grow on trees.
D-men that have the offensive game he has and can put up near 60 points don't exactly grow on trees.
Issue: Neither are strong defensively and Fox has very good chemistry with Lindgren (why break that up?)....
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Saying that Fox is not strong defensively is like saying Staal is good at anything hockey related.
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I think he's above average defensively with really good stick work and good positioning... But neither of these players should be relied upon to contain the other teams top offensive forwards, and certainly not on the same line.... a DeAngelo/Fox pairing would be particularly troublesome on the road when other teams have the last change...
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Neither player is known for being a 'defensive defenseman', neither player can be counted on to play any shutdown role against other teams top forwards... That's reality... Sorry if you have a different interpretation of 'strong'....
Both players are undersized and such a pairing would be an issue on the road when we can't get the defensive matchups that we would get at home... And it would be completely counterproductive to break up the Fox/Lindgren pairing....
Ah yes, the ol' small OFD=not good defensively assumption. Not all top lines are big and physical.
PS: Fox has been getting top assignments for while now and crushing it. Thats reality. The last change matchup thing is such a BS cop out, almost ALL shifts during a game start on the fly.
PS: Fox has been getting top assignments for while now and crushing it. Thats reality. The last change matchup thing is such a BS cop out, almost ALL shifts during a game start on the fly.
Please find the post where I claimed Fox was 'not good defensively'? You can't, because I never made any such claim...
And this couldn't possibly have anything to do with the amazing chemistry that Fox and Lindgren have and with the play of Ryan Lindgren, could it? Nahh.... So we should take Lindgren off that pairing and put an offensive defenseman on that pairing who isn't very good in his own end... And this benefits the team how?
BS cop out? Is this your first year watching professional hockey? Matchups don't matter? Teams never give up goals late in the game when they've iced the puck after a long shift and the other team sends fresh players out on the ice?
Why are you even making this argument? Do you actually think it's a wise idea to take the team's two best offensive defensemen and play them together, when one has to play the off side, all while breaking up our defensive pairing that has displayed the best chemistry all season? Bizarro world...
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Leave 'em. DeAngelo-Trouba 2nd pair next year, make Lindgren-Fox the full-time first-pair.
I mean they can either shuffle the D, roll 7 defensemen, or trade the kid.
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Again, please point out where I said Fox was 'not good' defensively...
I would characterize the defensemen in the league who excel and are known for their defensive game (without the puck) as having a 'strong' defensive game... Am I ready to place Fox in his rookie year in the same category as the defensemen in the league who are known for and sought after for their defensive abilities? No... Not at this time... Where's the issue here exactly?
Do people think there are only two ways to categorize a player's game? Either they excel at something or are not good (weak/below average)? Dualistic (Black & White) type thinking?
I don't operate with that mindset...
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