Nikita Kucherov is the clear favorite for the Art Ross Trophy

[PaulD]

Lol no I’m not talking about them. I’m talking about Matthews. But hey you’re a Montreal fan so I suppose it makes sense.

lol. I was being sarcastic. I thought you were talking about Ovechkin. ha!

Matthews is earning this Hab fans respect by knocking on the door to be the next OV.
Good that he is keeping his pants up in public too. A good career move.

 

[ColbyChaos]

in fairness he was a huge part of why it was the best team in 30 years

Didn’t know Kucherov was telling everyone to sign well below market value

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Kucherov up 13 now

 

[Sports123]

Nice to see Kucherov is still number one in points and the gap between him and McDavid remains despite all narrative here. I hope he will win Art Ross this year, cause he deserves.

 

[blundluntman]

Kucherov being the first player to 69 this season is a pretty head flipping milestone ngl

 

[ricky0034]

Nice to see Kucherov is still number one in points and the gap between him and McDavid remains despite all narrative here. I hope he will win Art Ross this year, cause he deserves.

it helps that Tampa has still played 5 more games this season than Edmonton has so far, that's like half the gap right there

can Kucherov win the Art Ross this year? maybe, but he can't slow down and it will probably require him to hit a new career high in points

 

[Coffey]

I hope Mack wins it if McDavid doesn't.
Then I could stop asking "when will he win an individual trophy" to berate him.

 

[AndreRoy]

So this has turned into a Crosby thread?

Every thread turns into a Crosby, Matthews, and/or McDavid thread depending on which fanbase is being the most obnoxious.

 

[Strangle]

shoulda, woulda, coulda. He couldn’t stay healthy. Bottom line. So we have idea of truly knowing and we never will.

The Crosby era was also terrible for scoring points. Crosby and his stock of draft stars just weren’t producers like those who came before and those in the league now

Every thread turns into a Crosby, Matthews, and/or McDavid thread depending on which fanbase is being the most obnoxious.

No Leafs are going to be challenging these guys for the art ross, I wish they were lol

 

[JoeSakic13]

Kucherov up 13 now

……with 6 other players between them

 

[KareemTrustfund]

The Crosby era was also terrible for scoring points. Crosby and his stock of draft stars just weren’t producers like those who came before and those in the league now



No Leafs are going to be challenging these guys for the art ross, I wish they were lol

It’s not that the Crosby era stars weren’t good point producers. It’s just way easier to score now. The goalie gear shrinkage in 17-18 roughly quadrupled the amount of PPG players. Mackinnon hadn’t really done anything until then. Kucherov had one ppg year, I think in 16-17.

 

[Video Nasty]

……with 6 other players between them

The beauty of having four games in hand on nearly all of them. He actually has five in hand on Kucherov. Only Ottawa has played fewer games than the Oilers.

Unfortunately, it will take them Oilers about another two months to make up those games, so the illusion of a large lead will hold for quite awhile, unless Kucherov/MacKinnon go cold for a handful of games and McDavid piles up 15 points again.

One month from now, through 2/13, the Oilers will have played 49 games versus 54 for the Lightning.

Through 3/2, the gap is still 58 games for the Oilers and 63 for the Lightning.

Which of course will bring out the gremlins who will complain about McDavid taking the lead in the final weeks of the season.

 

[Strangle]

It’s not that the Crosby era stars weren’t good point producers. It’s just way easier to score now. The goalie gear shrinkage in 17-18 roughly quadrupled the amount of PPG players. Mackinnon hadn’t really done anything until then. Kucherov had one ppg year, I think in 16-17.

And the two line pass must have really propped the Crosby players stats, and the rule changes around clutching and grabbing.

This just goes on and on forever. At some point you have to just count the stats and give up trying to massage them

 

[glovesave_35]

And the two line pass must have really propped the Crosby players stats, and the rule changes around clutching and grabbing.

This just goes on and on forever. At some point you have to just count the stats and give up trying to massage them

I am a neutral fan and it is obvious to anyone who watched that era vs now the difference in league scoring. The number of players popping off for greater than point per game seasons now vs then underscores the difference. It isn't just the top scorers.

 

[Sports123]

The beauty of having four games in hand on nearly all of them. He actually has five in hand on Kucherov. Only Ottawa has played fewer games than the Oilers.

Unfortunately, it will take them Oilers about another two months to make up those games, so the illusion of a large lead will hold for quite awhile, unless Kucherov/MacKinnon go cold for a handful of games and McDavid piles up 15 points again.

One month from now, through 2/13, the Oilers will have played 49 games versus 54 for the Lightning.

Through 3/2, the gap is still 58 games for the Oilers and 63 for the Lightning.

Which of course will bring out the gremlins who will complain about McDavid taking the lead in the final weeks of the season.

4 games is nothing until he scores points, because he can be on draught during these games. And don't forget that it can be McDavid who will go cold, while th other 8 players will go hot. Right now Kucherov and MacK pgp is higher than McD

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

The beauty of having four games in hand on nearly all of them. He actually has five in hand on Kucherov. Only Ottawa has played fewer games than the Oilers.

Unfortunately, it will take them Oilers about another two months to make up those games, so the illusion of a large lead will hold for quite awhile, unless Kucherov/MacKinnon go cold for a handful of games and McDavid piles up 15 points again.

One month from now, through 2/13, the Oilers will have played 49 games versus 54 for the Lightning.

Through 3/2, the gap is still 58 games for the Oilers and 63 for the Lightning.

Which of course will bring out the gremlins who will complain about McDavid taking the lead in the final weeks of the season.

He is 13 points back. Regardless of the 4 games in hand. He is being soundly outproduced

 

[Video Nasty]

4 games is nothing until he scores points, because he can be on draught during these games. And don't forget that it can be McDavid who will go cold, while th other 8 players will go hot. Right now Kucherov and MacK pgp is higher than McD

Yeah, it makes sense not to trust in the player who most recently dropped 153 points and has been scoring at a 1.63 PPG clip over his past 437 games, which is well over 5 full 82 game seasons, and has occurred in 6 years real time, while missing just 15 games.

He is 13 points back. Regardless of the 4 games in hand. He is being soundly outproduced

The guy plays while injured. He doesn’t have the luxury of sitting out 40-60 games like Crosby and Malkin have.

 

[Martin Skoula]

And the two line pass must have really propped the Crosby players stats, and the rule changes around clutching and grabbing.

This just goes on and on forever. At some point you have to just count the stats and give up trying to massage them

So most of the top scoring seasons happening in the same 5 year span was just because women having kids in the mid-late 60s were snorting lines of super soldier serum and not because goalies were stand-up midgets playing in seran wrap behind guys who never learned to skate backwards.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

Yeah, it makes sense not to trust in the player who most recently dropped 153 points and has been scoring at a 1.63 PPG clip over his past 437 games, which is well over 5 full 82 game seasons, and has occurred in 6 years real time, while missing just 15 games.



The guy plays while injured. He doesn’t have the luxury of sitting out 40-60 games like Crosby and Malkin have.

Well if he took a cheap shot to the head or a slap shot to the head he would be out lol. BTW your so hung up on this 4 game in hand while being 13 back. Crosby was 3 back with 5 less games and actually led the league in ppg at 27m keep that in mind

 

[Video Nasty]

Well if he took a cheap shot to the head or a slap shot to the head he would be out lol. BTW your so hung up on this 4 game in hand while being 13 back. Crosby was 3 back with 5 less games and actually led the league in ppg at 27m keep that in mind

I advise waiting until the end of the season before crowing. It’s going to look really bad for you when he wins his 6th Art Ross and possibly goes on a Cup winning Conn Smythe run.

I’m not interested in hearing about how Crosby wasted an opportunity to add to his tiny Art Ross collection.

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

I advise waiting until the end of the season before crowing. It’s going to look really bad for you when he wins his 6th Art Ross and possibly goes on a Cup winning Conn Smythe run.

I’m not interested in hearing about how Crosby wasted an opportunity to add to his tiny Art Ross collection.

Lol good luck with your hypothetical smythe. Easier said then done

 

[Strangle]

So most of the top scoring seasons happening in the same 5 year span was just because women having kids in the mid-late 60s were snorting lines of super soldier serum and not because goalies were stand-up midgets playing in seran wrap behind guys who never learned to skate backwards.

You’re trying to say that talent disparity doesn’t exist over time in the league.

Your stance sounds like you think talent should be normalized through stat adjustment?

That’s just a crazy thought to me.

Yes, some players are better. Yes sometimes players in the league are better than previous, or worse. I mean, it’s not earth shattering to see that player performance isn’t normalized over time.

Gretzky screwed all this up for newer fans. They took one look at his stats and said ‘hm, somethings wrong here. Let me just open up excel and…. Bam! Okay! Goalie equipment’

 

[DownIsTheNewUp]

Lol good luck with your hypothetical smythe. Easier said then done

Yep, they’re in here ripping Crosby fans for giving him hypothetical Art Rosses, but then start giving McD an imaginary Smyth.

 

[Bank Shot]

Yep, they’re in here ripping Crosby fans for giving him hypothetical Art Rosses, but then start giving McD an imaginary Smyth.

I'm going to award McDavid 4 theoretical Stanley Cups. So sure Crosby has the pretend Art Ross race locked up, but Mcdavid is crushing him in thought experiment team success.

And that's what a true leader does.

 

[hamzarocks]

Lol good luck with your hypothetical smythe. Easier said then done

Dude stop comparing Crosby to Mcdavid

Crosby is a tier below

Mcdavid does everything at a higher level then Crosby did.

Crosbys age 27-32 seasons werw heavy disapointments for a guy who was supposed to be a GOAT level talent.

Injuries could be the result maybe, but Mcdavid looks like he will destroy Crosby's 27 to 32 year seasons as he has no weakness in his game.