Player Discussion Nick Suzuki Part 11

[Miller Time]

Quite the opposite. Suzuki's defensive play was always poor; Habs fans are merely unable to perceive it because of their bias.

This article should be a splash of cold water on the irrational and utterly unsupported notion that Suzuki is a quality two-way forward, the next Bergeron, as so many in the fanbase hailed him.

Next Bergeron is a stretch for any player... he's a first ballot HOF that is one of the best 2-way/defensive skaters in league history.

The rest of your take is as poorly grounded as that article. Assessments made without the ability to consider context are abundant these days, but utterly useless

 

[domiwroze]

This article should be a splash of cold water on the irrational and utterly unsupported notion that Suzuki is a quality two-way forward, the next Bergeron, as so many in the fanbase hailed him.

 

[Colezuki]

Quite the opposite. Suzuki's defensive play was always poor; Habs fans are merely unable to perceive it because of their bias.

This article should be a splash of cold water on the irrational and utterly unsupported notion that Suzuki is a quality two-way forward, the next Bergeron, as so many in the fanbase hailed him.

Ah yes, the article that references his defensive play has fallen the last two years vs. his first year to support his offensive growth. Except three years ago he had a quality goaltender and defense to work with and the last two he's been supporting the most injured team in the league.

Then add on that its an absolute ridiculous assertion to use this article to say that Suzuki's overrated, then simultaneously omit that the same author posits that Caufield will have a similar defensive impact as Suzuki over the next 7 years.

Hey you do you

 

[Scriptor]

Quite the opposite. Suzuki's defensive play was always poor; Habs fans are merely unable to perceive it because of their bias.

This article should be a splash of cold water on the irrational and utterly unsupported notion that Suzuki is a quality two-way forward, the next Bergeron, as so many in the fanbase hailed him.

Even strength play may not be that of a shutdown C, per se, but an analysis was made to demonstrate that Suzuki is one of the premier PK Cs in the league.

His defensive play is far from piss poor, but playing with a C like Dach as his RW enables Suzuki to take more chances and be more creative deep in the O-zone. Dach can become the first one on the back check and adequately take on the defensive responsibilities in our zone for the C.

There may be some rose-coloured blinders with some fans when it comes to Suzuki, but there is also some inexplicable hatred for him?

Suzuki is a quality two-way C in this league and ought to only get better with better wingers who have more experience in time.

Zegras VS Suzuki, for example:

Zegras is a defensive sieve. Suzuki is not. Both produce mid-60s in points, so far in their careers.

Suzuki is good at battling for pucks because of the way he uses his body to insert himself between the puck and the opponent so he can recover the rubber.

It's always easy to state a point without any analysis to support it.

 

[Miller Time]

If he has a healthy year, he'll be ppg+ this year.

 

[Habssince89]

The things going in Suzuki's favour:
-Dach drawing quality competition
-Not playing injured
-maybe just maybeeee a slight increase in PP%

 

[Mrb1p]

Burrows coaches it. And he's been terrible at it for years.

In any case, the PP will be fixed when we have guys that can play it, especially on the blue line. Hutson, Mailloux, hopefully Reinbacher, Barron

Guhles better than all these guys offensively and he doesnt play.

 

[SlafySZN]

Guhles better than all these guys offensively and he doesnt play.

Guhle not gonna be better offensively than Hutson.

 

[Mrb1p]

Guhle not gonna be better offensively than Hutson.

Pretty sure he will be. Shooting, skating, strength are all offensive skills too and Guhle explodes Hutson in those.

 

[Miller Time]

The things going in Suzuki's favour:
-Dach drawing quality competition
-Not playing injured
-maybe just maybeeee a slight increase in PP%

Add: unlikely to again be the only player with 40+pts on the roster

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Pretty sure he will be. Shooting, skating, strength are all offensive skills too and Guhle explodes Hutson in those.

Hutson obliterates Guhle in passing, playmaking, creativity, vision, deception, and stickhandling.

The things going in Suzuki's favour:
-Dach drawing quality competition
-Not playing injured
-maybe just maybeeee a slight increase in PP%

A full season of Caufield and Matheson would also make a big difference

 

[MadMslm]

One thing about Suzuki, that most elite forwards seem to have, is his ability to get on the board even when he doesn’t look great.

Every season he has those stretches where he looks elite for 10+ games before disappearing for a while just to look great again.

Sometimes you want see him much in a game and when you look at the scoresheet you see him with 2/3 pts.

It’s a big year ahead.

 

[Rapala]

Garbage article, he basically posits that suzukis defensive game imploded to get 66 pts, where it's the opposite, he had to carry ECHL quality at times once Cole went down. I'm expecting a significant uptick in both this year assuming the team can stay healthy and I don't expect gentile to ever discuss how his model was wrong again.

He literally went from a -10 when Caufield went down to a -3 for the balance of the season for his -13. So not only did he produce with lesser players he definitely focused on getting better defensively with no Monahan to support the middle.

 

[Andy]

Suzuki will be a PPG if he shoots more. He has the ability to score 35 goals. He’s often in a prime shooting lane but chooses to pass.

I believe he will be the next habs player to hit 80 points if he gets more shot volume. He’s that good.

 

[Whitesnake]

Norman Flynn....GM...imagine that.

 

[Tyson]

Suzuki will be a PPG if he shoots more. He has the ability to score 35 goals. He’s often in a prime shooting lane but chooses to pass.

I believe he will be the next habs player to hit 80 points if he gets more shot volume. He’s that good.

He is outstanding for sure

 

[Skip Bayless]

Suzuki will be a PPG if he shoots more. He has the ability to score 35 goals. He’s often in a prime shooting lane but chooses to pass.

I believe he will be the next habs player to hit 80 points if he gets more shot volume. He’s that good.

Yeah, he's developped this weird new bad habit of refusing to shoot when he's in prime position. I thought he was refusing to shoot last year because of injury, but it seems like its carried on to this pre-season so far.

He's got a laser writer, idk wtf he's thinking. He starts doing weird shit sometimes because he's too smart but he needs to chill.

 

[Redux91]

Norman Flynn....GM...imagine that.

It's been this kind of thinking par 'les boys' that set us back 30 years honestly

 

[Fatbiggie]

Norman Flynn....GM...imagine that.

Never forget…it was a stupid take back then, even stupider now

 

[The Great Weal]

Norman Flynn....GM...imagine that.

I mean no Suzuki might have meant we get Bedard so he might have been thinking ahead

 

[Redux91]

I mean no Suzuki might have meant we get Bedard so he might have been thinking ahead

Then he would just want to trade Bedard for Laf.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Another ad for slick Nick

Oui oui

 

[Mrb1p]

Another ad for slick Nick

Oui oui

Thats so good lmao

 

[xX SEYF Xx]

Another ad for slick Nick

Oui oui

nailed the accent lol
ben oui, ça exiSS

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Suzuki’s line was mostly overwhelmed tonight. I’m not a fan of Anderson on the right. Hopefully they go back to Monaghan as I think he’s the right guy.