Player Discussion Nick Suzuki Part 11

[Doc5]

With that run he just had, he just almost matched his last years ppg average despite that slow start. Didn’t Really think he’d be able to do it!

 

[Skip Bayless]

He's an elite player in the making. Never in doubt.

 

[Retired]

Those “impossible-weird-angled-passes” and that laser wrist shot are so lethal. Love watching this guy, have not felt this since Kovalev.

 

[That Habs Fan]

Kid is proving he's worth the contract we gave him, and he'll only get better. Couldn't be happier that MSL is in place for Caufield and Suzuki.

 

[JuJu Mobb]

He's moving his feet like never before, it really adds to his game.

 

[Rapala]

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Suzuki has really improved his faceoffs.
Now at 49.1% on the season not counting today (13/16 on faceoffs so far)

I remember talking about this last year. There was absolutely no reason to doubt he would improve. Now he just needs to gain more respect from the linesmen because they toss him far too easily IMO. With his character that will come.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

He’s on schedule to be a very rare player. True Centerman. PPG player. Elite defensively. Can play all situations.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Those “impossible-weird-angled-passes” and that laser wrist shot are so lethal. Love watching this guy, have not felt this since Kovalev.

The way he came back after his goal was disallowed with another snipe was badass. He just had Smith confused as hell. First snipe was low blocker, then comes back with the high glove. He’s like Bobby Fisher. Just a move ahead of his opponents.

 

[Rapala]

He’s on schedule to be a very rare player. True Centerman. PPG player. Elite defensively. Can play all situations.

He is outpacing Ryan O'Reilly by a decent margin at the same point in his career. O'Reilly was also an a much better offensive oriented team. Good News.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Potentially the best player since... who?

 

[Scriptor]

He’s on schedule to be a very rare player. True Centerman. PPG player. Elite defensively. Can play all situations.

Elite defensively? I'm a HUGE fan of Suzuki and I've been perpetuating he's a fine two-way player who can line up with the opponents' best, but a quick look at his NHL stats page shows he's an impressive -17 for the season and -37 career-wise.

On the surface, that's not a positive goal differential at even strength. Is he that good on the PP and the PK to rue out this mark?

Where are we getting all this elite defensively stuff? Is the +\- States that superfluous? Why bother even taking it into account on a Stat sheet?

 

[ReHabs]

I think it's a stretch to clam Suzuki is elite defensively

 

[ReHabs]

Potentially the best player since... who?

Kovalev?

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Elite defensively? I'm a HUGE fan of Suzuki and I've been perpetuating he's a fine two-way player who can line up with the opponents' best, but a quick look at his NHL stats page shows he's an impressive -17 for the season and -37 career-wise.

On the surface, that's not a positive goal differential at even strength. Is he that good on the PP and the PK to rue out this mark?

Where are we getting all this elite defensively stuff? Is the +\- States that superfluous? Why bother even taking it into account on a Stat sheet?

According to defensive WAR, Suzuki is a top 10 defensive forward in the league.

 

[Habs Halifax]

He's moving his feet like never before, it really adds to his game.

He's very skilled and his hockey IQ is very high. He's improving right in front of our eyes and it's hard to nit pick a flaw on Suzuki at this point in time. Skating is improving, 200' game is improving, faceoffs? not sure. His shot when he has time to walk in is very dangerous and he's getting more velocity/accuracy from what I can tell.

 

[Hannibal]

Suzuki is at his best when he plays with an edge. When he gets cocky or when he’s finishing his hits. For some reason, when i see Suzuki going into the corner and hitting guys and getting dirty, i know right away that’s he’s gonna play a good one!

 

[CDN24]

Potentially the best player since... who?

Patrice Bergeron

Elite defensively? I'm a HUGE fan of Suzuki and I've been perpetuating he's a fine two-way player who can line up with the opponents' best, but a quick look at his NHL stats page shows he's an impressive -17 for the season and -37 career-wise.

On the surface, that's not a positive goal differential at even strength. Is he that good on the PP and the PK to rue out this mark?

Where are we getting all this elite defensively stuff? Is the +\- States that superfluous? Why bother even taking it into account on a Stat sheet?

A lot of that is a function of playing on a crappy team. Bergeron was a -20 for his career at the end of his 3rd season. He has been a plus 262 since. Suzuki reminds me a lot of Bergeron

 

[KevSkillz4]

Nick Suzuki is incredible hockey player, we don't see his full potential, imagine in 2 years, this guy he is going to be a top C in this league, last year on pace 60 points, this year, on pace 60 points in 82 games too (with slow start and bad year for the team).

High hockey IQ, great shot, if he use more his shot on his spot on PP, he can put 25-30 goals per season, he is more a playmaker, but he is a great shooter too. He can do everything on ice.

He just need to put consistency on his game, with consistency, this guy can be a very special player for long time.

We can easily build around him.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

He's too good and too cool , big d*** slick nick baby!

 

[Skip Bayless]

Suzuki is at his best when he plays with an edge. When he gets cocky or when he’s finishing his hits. For some reason, when i see Suzuki going into the corner and hitting guys and getting dirty, i know right away that’s he’s gonna play a good one!

That's the telling sign indeed. He is super strong on the puck when he's on.

 

[ChikN]

Complete player. We're lucky to have him for a loooong time.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

If there is one thing MB did right its that he signed Suzuki to a long term deal.

 

[ReHabs]

If there is one thing MB did right its that he signed Suzuki to a long term deal.

Bergevin made a lot of moves in his ten year tenure and I can name a few better than giving Suzuki a blank cheque. Suzuki at 7.8m for 8 years is far too much cap hit and term, the only comparable is Nico Hirscher and that's not a good thing.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Bergevin made a lot of moves in his ten year tenure and I can name a few better than giving Suzuki a blank cheque. Suzuki at 7.8m for 8 years is far too much cap hit and term, the only comparable is Nico Hirscher and that's not a good thing.

In a couple of years we are going to be loving this deal.

 

[ReHabs]

In a couple of years we are going to be loving this deal.

I sure hope so. But it was clearly a gamble, and a bad one for a team that has over 20% of its cap to Weber and Price for the next four years... and another 20% to Armia, Gallagher, and Petry.

Suzuki just isn't productive enough to be worth 7.8m a year. Maybe he will be soon, but until then...

Let's agree that MSL has been a godsend for him.