Player Discussion Nick Suzuki Part 11

[26Mats]

No one, at any point, should have been worried about Suzuki. Dude is legit.

Same with Caufield and Romanov.

Need to try to get more young players like them, or picks to try to draft them, at the TDL

 

[Hins77]

He is already value his new contract. His contract will be a bargain soon imo..

 

[Big Empty]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

Suzuki is clearly overpaid, we hope that at one point, he will be able to reach his potential (70+ points). We paid him for future results.

 

[le_sean]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

Give Suzuki linemates like Aho and Teuvo and say the same thing. He plays a premium position, runs the PP and kills penalties. Can’t say the same about Svech, as good as he is offensively.

 

[Picaroon]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

I love Suzuki but man, I hate remembering we were one pick away from Svech. He is barely getting started and already a dominant force. A superstar in the making.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Suzuki has really improved his faceoffs.
Now at 49.1% on the season not counting today (13/16 on faceoffs so far)

 

[GHJimmy]

I have a strong feeling if weber doesn't come back that suzuki will become captain, he has every aspect and such a all around player. Love this kid

 

[bonneaug]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

He's more or less a younger, smoother ROR (righty 2-way centerman, captain, 7.5 aav). That contract will take a couple years to fully be worth its weight in gold, but I'm sure we'll enjoy every moment being in the money when that happens.

 

[lamp9post]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

Suzuki is clearly overpaid, we hope that at one point, he will be able to reach his potential (70+ points). We paid him for future results.

Suzuki is still on his ELC. I get what you guys are saying, but shouldn't we wait until the contract kicks in before discussing whether he is overpaid?

 

[417]

He is already value his new contract. His contract will be a bargain soon imo..

The Habs have already gotten value from his ELC…the balance will probably shift over the net 2 yers before he’s bargain again the the remanded of us deal, or a least, that’s the plan.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Suzuki is still on his ELC. I get what you guys are saying, but shouldn't we wait until the contract kicks in before discussing whether he is overpaid?

 

[JoelWarlord]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

I can. Svechnikov is a year younger, plays wing and not center, and signed a contract that kicked in this season and locks in his age 21 to 28 seasons while Suzuki signed a contract that covers his age 23 to 30 seasons. Of course Svechnikov is a better player, but under the cap and RFA system it's not as simple as player A > player B so player A should always make a higher AAV.

Players like Svechnikov who come into the league and start playing instantly almost always come a little cheaper for this reason, you can give Svechnikov an 8 year contract right off his ELC and he's going to be set up to get another monster deal again as a UFA when it's over, while if you want to buy a player's entire prime from age 23-30 you are going to have to pay a little extra for the fact that you might be putting the player in a spot where the best he can get at that age is a 3-4 year deal at a lower number.

Suzuki is clearly overpaid, we hope that at one point, he will be able to reach his potential (70+ points). We paid him for future results.

Ignoring the whole thing where he's still on the ELC currently anyway, he is not overpaid even if he were making the extension value this season. I've said this a million times in this thread but by the time the season begins next year, Suzuki will be the 22nd or 23rd highest paid C in the league, will be in the high 20s the year after, and into the low-mid 30s starting in year 3. You can't just compare his number to Barzal or Pettersson who are on bridge deals or guys like MacKinnon/O'Reilly who are going to be up for new contracts in a year or two and say he's overpaid because they're better, those guys will all be making more within a very short period of time.

The entire point of the deal is you're paying a higher AAV than a bridge to buy term instead of going lower AAV on a bridge then paying UFA prices to lock the player in after that. He just happened to sign long term at a point in time where a lot of 1Cs around the league are either nearing the end of long term deals from 5+ years ago, or are on a 3 year bridge. A player isn't overpaid simply because the circumstances of when they happened to be up for a contract mean they make more money than some better players in years 1 and 2 of an 8 year contract, and then go on to make significantly less from years 3-8.

Montreal was in a position where we didn't need to care about maximizing cap efficiency in the short term and could instead pay for term to save in the long run, while other teams were up against the cap and had to go with a bridge deal to make it work. That's really all there is to it.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I can't believe the Canes are paying less for Svechnikov (7.75M) than we are for Suzuki (7.875M).

Do you think they should have paid more, us less, or are you simply in disbelief in general?

 

[Ozmodiar]

 

[ahmedou]

9 POINTS IN THE LAST 6 GAMES.

 

[SamHabsFan]

wow another game tonight against EDM that he is the best player on the ice, matching up against draisaitl...this is impressive! 2 back to back wristers that goes in (1 waived off), an assist on Cole's goal and multîple creative dekes throughout the game...Suzuki is legit guys!

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I can see Suzuki going ppg next season

 

[Belial]

I can see Suzuki going ppg next season

As long as his GF% is on the positive side.

 

[Habs13]

So... where's Danault?!?

 

[Belial]

So... where's Danault?!?

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

incredible player

4G 6A in his last 5 games

 

[FrankMTL]

Makes you wonder what could have been for both Suzuki and Caufield with MSL (or another decent coach) as coach all season.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I have a strong feeling if weber doesn't come back that suzuki will become captain, he has every aspect and such a all around player. Love this kid

Do not give it to Gallagher. My picks are either Suzuki or Anderson. I think Suzuki can handle it.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Suzuki is 1 pt away and 2 goals away from matching his personal best.... with 26 games left to go.

On fire since Jan 18th:
* 21 pts in 19 games with 6 goals (43% from the PP)

Blazing hot with MSL and with Caufield/Anderson:
* 13 pts in 11 games with 4 goals (38% from the PP)

If he finishes with pt/game stats in the remaining 26 games, that's 66 pts.