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Jake Evans will steal your wife
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who cares about his salary when none of us are signing his cheque? lol
Player Discussion Nick Suzuki Part 11
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Mandalorian
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I don't think Suzuki contract is THAT bad, actually probably is league value for a up and coming two way 1B C but it has nothing to do with signing his pay cheque, bad cap management means less room for other talented player that can be aquired via trades/UFA, or just plain resigning your good player (see Danault, KK) which means a less competitive teams, which any follower of the team should care about.
If you don't care about this, you don't care about overpaying anyone either which makes me think you don't fully understand how the current NHL works with the concept of a salary cap.
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Jake Evans will steal your wife
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Yeah man, need someone super smart like you to break it down for me. Can you explain icings and offsides too?
Mandalorian
Screw the tank, just WIN BABY!
Then what is the point of your comment? Why shouldn't fans care about cap management, even if they don't sign the cheque?
Actually, I’d say that if you understand the salary cap, you also understand that “overpaying” players comes with the territory, the system is designed that way to a certain extent.
it’s inevitable…
but really, fans obsess about the salary cap way too much and understand very little about how contracts work and how teams hand them out.
Nick Suzuki is a perfect example…how many posts in here saying that it’s a bad contract.
That just tells me that there’s very little comprehension beyond looking at cap hits relative to the points players puts up.
Mandalorian
Screw the tank, just WIN BABY!
I think Suzuki contract is a good deal, I'm actually defending it on the main boards.
Just think that people saying "why you care about salary lol you don't paid" is short-sighted on a hockey board made to discuss hockey. Salary cap and contracts are a big part of the game, I see no problem with people debating whether a contract as proper value or not even if the money doesn't come from their pocket.
Yeah…just saying, good or bad, is all relative.
The standard for an 8yr deal for a player like Nick Suzuki was set long before Nick signed his deal. The Habs wanted to lock him down for 8yrs and he clearly wanted the long term security.
So that means he fits on a salary range in comparison to his peers.
It’s not like the Habs could have signed him for 8yrs at 6M per year.
yeah nothing wrong with discussing it but I do find that there’s way too much focus on it though and a lack of information related to contract decisions, again, Suzuki’s deal being a great example.
Too much focus on the immediate output for a contract designed to create value LATER.
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Mandalorian
Screw the tank, just WIN BABY!
Yes, Montreal obviously wanted to lock Nick on his prime/some of his UFA years and had to pay on projection. It's arguable that 6M$ is his actual worth currently, but you can't low ball a young up and coming talented center like Suzuki if you want him long-term with the team.
The only problem with his contract is if he doesn't improve/underperform which is a risk for all players and turn a fair deal into a nightmarish one but this apply to any deal really. But even then it would be a 1-2M$ overpayment at the very most.
This is probably the point some are trying to make; they don't think Suzuki will improve that much and just go with current play. Which his unlikely, considering he is still pretty young and has no support right now, but still find the way to produce to a 50+ point pace, and his seems to have a good work ethic. But what remains unlikely too is Nick turning into a 90/PPG monster and commending a 10M$ extension in 2024-2025 after a bridge deal of 5-6M$.
Would have Montreal made use of the 2 year cap space saved for the duration of the bridge deal during a rebuild tho? Not sure it was a risk taking.
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ahmedou
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I wonder if the captaincy talk is registering with Suzuki? I've never seen him play that physical.
Maybe, although I think the 'C' should go to Anderson if we keep him.
Redux91
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He had a HELL of a game
Felt like he had 3 pts too but no lol
Havent been concerned with Suzuki not ONCE this year
Felt like he had 3 pts too but no lol
Havent been concerned with Suzuki not ONCE this year
If he keeps progressing. I think as long as they are actually changing the culture and way they develop and utilize players strengths, we should actually see a true "team" get built that can compete every year, as opposed to a mishmash of players who might be good at first, and then disappear. Montreal has generally been where scorers come to die (with the odd exception). Now, a big part of that has been the lack of a true number 1 centre of course.
Wow big surprise, fire the dinosaur coach and give the guy some linemates and he's looking good again, who could have possibly predicted that Nick Suzuki didn't suddenly suck after 30 games with the worst coach in the league when he was a beast in the playoffs just a few months prior.
Hope people remember this the next time he slumps for 2 or 3 games before losing their minds because the AAV starts with a 7. Genuinely blows my mind that people were losing their mind over the cap hit percentage equivalent of paying Plekanec 5.75M instead of 5M in 2011 because the number starts with a 7. Just insanity.
Hope people remember this the next time he slumps for 2 or 3 games before losing their minds because the AAV starts with a 7. Genuinely blows my mind that people were losing their mind over the cap hit percentage equivalent of paying Plekanec 5.75M instead of 5M in 2011 because the number starts with a 7. Just insanity.
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No one, at any point, should have been worried about Suzuki. Dude is legit.
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