Nicholas Robertson Discussion.

[VanW27]

Nick maybe 5ft10 with huge blades otherwise when i saw him he is 5ft8 and slow .. he does have decent edges but no straight line passing speed .. you need SIZE and SPEED as a W but you can lack SIZE as a C if you have Braydon's SPEED .. you are comparing a top 10 guy in league in flat out straight line foot speed

My issue with Nick is between the ears. The skills are there to be an NHL player despite lacking in some areas (size/strength), but he just has no idea where to be on the ice at the NHL level to use them.

He's an undersized shooter who can't get open. Maybe he can figure it out, and he has no value anyway, so no reason to trade him.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Kane has neither size nor speed, neither does Kucherov, and they were the best wingers in the last 10 years... Kind of throws off your theory.

Kane has insane SKILL, like #1 in league in his prime, and Kuch has an insane SHOT and both guys like Mitch and Marchand can twirl in a phone booth .. 4 of best lateral edge skaters EVER .. we are talking Nick Robertson here OMG unbelievable

 

[notbias]

Kane has insane SKILL, like #1 in league in his prime, and Kuch has an insane SHOT and both guys like Mitch and Marchand can twirl in a phone booth .. 4 of best lateral edge skaters EVER .. we are talking Nick Robertson here OMG unbelievable

You stated you need both size and speed to succeed as a winger. Most of the top wingers have neither.

You're just flat out wrong, sorry.

My issue with Nick is between the ears. The skills are there to be an NHL player despite lacking in some areas (size/strength), but he just has no idea where to be on the ice at the NHL level to use them.

He's an undersized shooter who can't get open. Maybe he can figure it out, and he has no value anyway, so no reason to trade him.

This pretty much sums him up.

He has a motor, a great shot, and decent puck skills. I've always thought his decision-making was the issue.

 

[francis246]

My issue with Nick is between the ears. The skills are there to be an NHL player despite lacking in some areas (size/strength), but he just has no idea where to be on the ice at the NHL level to use them.

He's an undersized shooter who can't get open. Maybe he can figure it out, and he has no value anyway, so no reason to trade him.

he's 21, hadn't had a normal training camp since last year. I get what your saying but those things can be taught if that's the only gripes you have with him

 

[JT AM da real deal]

You stated you need both size and speed to succeed as a winger. Most of the top wingers have neither.

You're just flat out wrong, sorry.



This pretty much sums him up.

He has a motor, a great shot, and decent puck skills. I've always thought his decision-making was the issue.

You are correct i was talking in general like da Vegas scout who said you can have 1 small skilled guy, like Mars, as long as he wins Conn Smyth .. clearly there are small skilled wingers who can twirl and score and/or twirl and pass .. you just can't have multiples

 

[TheScandal89]

I think he gets dealt now that we have Bertuzzi, Knies and Domi at LW. We have 3 RW who are also probably ahead of him if he wanted to try switching over as well as Jarnkrok would be 3rd.

But, I would have been interested to have seen him play with a passer like Marner, it never actually happened. He was given chances with Nylander, but Marner might have been the guy to get him pucks in shooting spots. The 2 of them with Matthews would have been a soft line though.

 

[Knies iT]

Jason is 6ft3.5 with wheels and a shot .. Nick is 5ft7 with a shot .. huge difference in SKILLS .. there will ZERO interest .. a wasted Dubie pick

Jason Robertson does not have wheels. That's been his biggest knock since junior. He's an average skater at best.

Nick is also 5'10 183lbs.

Nick has the skills, skating and IQ to be an NHL middle sixer. You don't produce at a historic D+1 rate, go PPG as a 20 year old in the AHL, and then bust by 21. The only way he completely falters is if his body doesn't hold up, which is a real possibility. If he remains healthy, I have no doubt he can be a Vatrano, if not better.

He's not his brother but people acting like he's a write-off at 21 are crazy.

 

[Warden of the North]

He's a reclamation project at this point. Not worth much of anything as a trade asset.

 

[LeafGrief]

I think we just hold on to him until he goes to play in Europe. He's still got his upside, but he's probably a few years away from putting it together. Injury will come for one of our LW's at some point this year and Robertson will be as good of a project to slide into those minutes as any other.

 

[Leafed]

 

[Fogelhund]

Play him on the Marlies, until an injury spot opens up. He's still waiver eligible, so it doesn't even matter too much. Hopefully he does well in his offseason training, works on his acceleration, as well as his core strength and balance... and then the deficiencies in his game. Finding the right space to get that shot off, playing within his size limitations.

 

[DuklaNation]

Need to play with at least 1 or 2 physical linemates. That's a big problem on this roster with the top 4 currently.

 

[al secord]

What's his snot/60?

 

[notbias]

You are correct i was talking in general like da Vegas scout who said you can have 1 small skilled guy, like Mars, as long as he wins Conn Smyth .. clearly there are small skilled wingers who can twirl and score and/or twirl and pass .. you just can't have multiples

Ya, Chicago did terribly with multiple skilled wingers.

Next you're going to tell me you need at least 4 hulking Dmen to win the cup and you could never win the cup when all your top Dmen are small and skilled (Colorado).

 

[Apex Predator]

His value is at an all time low right now. Can’t imagine he’s worry much and would rather hold on to him. If it means start in the Marlies than he starts on the Marlies.

 

[crump]

These necro-bump threads are no good for my brain.

Bottom line. There can only be so many soft top 6 players on a team. He’s not a bottom 6. So unless he has added defensive IQ, girth and more hitting into his game or someone gets injured, he starts on the Marlies or is included in a deal. Too bad because he has an elite shot. One trick pony I’m afraid. I’d be happy to have Nick prove me wrong.

 

[PeteBestondrums]

If he was such an amazing, can't miss prospect that many of you claim...how come we haven't heard of a single instance of some other club trying to s ag him from us?
Truth is he's a longshot to make the NHL and he probably tops out as a 3rd liner, 15 goal kinda guy with an occasional flash of brilliance.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

Jason Robertson does not have wheels. That's been his biggest knock since junior. He's an average skater at best.

Nick is also 5'10 183lbs.

Nick has the skills, skating and IQ to be an NHL middle sixer. You don't produce at a historic D+1 rate, go PPG as a 20 year old in the AHL, and then bust by 21. The only way he completely falters is if his body doesn't hold up, which is a real possibility. If he remains healthy, I have no doubt he can be a Vatrano, if not better.

He's not his brother but people acting like he's a write-off at 21 are crazy.

TOO SLOW TOO SMALL .. we need to unload these types .. we already have TOO many to win in playoffs .. same with over half of Marlie team .. it is a total rebuild of minors .. let someone else take a chance on a 1 trick pony shooter

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I just hope the guy can stay healthy and play a full year of hockey. Got to be 5 years since he's stayed in the lineup all season.

 

[Guided by Veseys]

Rather cut ties and keep the second rounder or whatever is needed to get rid of Murray. There is no spot on this team and another year of Marlies for him is just stupid as he has been ppg there for two seasons already, nothing left for him in that league except diminished hope.

 

[Ciao]

Looks like Joey Anderson.

 

[Budz]

If he is healthy to start the year, start him with Matthews and Marner.

Pump up his trade value.

Deal him by Christmas.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Kadri was a bust and a wasted pick that needed to move to a new team for a fresh start at 21 too. How did that work out?

If he was such an amazing, can't miss prospect that many of you claim...how come we haven't heard of a single instance of some other club trying to s ag him from us?
Truth is he's a longshot to make the NHL and he probably tops out as a 3rd liner, 15 goal kinda guy with an occasional flash of brilliance.

Philly has been interested in him so there goes that theory.

 

[Leafidelity]

No harm in keeping him around as an injury replacement player. I dont think he has much value at this point anyways, and we wont go 82 games without someone going down.

 

[kb]

No harm in keeping him around as an injury replacement player. I dont think he has much value at this point anyways, and we wont go 82 games without someone going down.

Exactly. Plus they need some insurance for the top-6. He and Knies are the most NHL ready prospects, and the only ones with top-6 upside.