Nicholas Robertson Discussion.

[leafsfan5]

I think he could potentially be good on a 3rd line with Domi

2 fast, North-South players. One with a great shot, the other with some of the best passing numbers in the league. Could be a solid duo for us to finally have reliable depth scoring. You’ll need to stick someone defensively reliable on their wing (Jarnkrok?) for sure, though

 

[horner]

You stated you need both size and speed to succeed as a winger. Most of the top wingers have neither.

You're just flat out wrong, sorry.



This pretty much sums him up.

He has a motor, a great shot, and decent puck skills. I've always thought his decision-making was the issue.

Agreed

 

[PromisedLand]

seems like he may be ready to go come training camp. thats some good news i guess

 

[BrannigansLaw]

seems like he may be ready to go come training camp. thats some good news i guess

Good to hear. I’m rooting for him.

 

[Burnie97]

seems like he may be ready to go come training camp. thats some good news i guess

Beauty. Let's go Robertson.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I'd rather have Robertson on the team than Nylander.

Robertson has way more heart.

In 15 games last year Robertson had 18 hits. In 82 games last year Nylander had the exact same 18 hits. Pretty obvious which one gives his all every night if you ask me.

Those numbers don't even sound real.

It sounds like I'm making them up. Like it's some sort of joke. In fact it IS a joke.

Nylander should be ashamed of himself.

Have some dignity for crying out loud. Play with some god damn pride. Robertson got hurt going into the corner for a puck in what was essentially a meaningless game.

Contrast that to Nylander pulling up in the most important game of the year.

Nylander isn't even willing to break a sweat on any given night. Let lone dare break a bone. Pretty pathetic considering that Nylander is a lot bigger than Robertson.

Except where it matters most.

The heart.

 

[TMLAM34]

If Robertson can stay healthy, we could have ourselves a pretty good top nine winger.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I'd rather have Robertson on the team than Nylander.

Robertson has way more heart.

In 15 games last year Robertson had 18 hits. In 82 games last year Nylander had the exact same 18 hits. Pretty obvious which one gives his all every night if you ask me.

Those numbers don't even sound real.

It sounds like I'm making them up. Like it's some sort of joke. In fact it IS a joke.

Nylander should be ashamed of himself.

Have some dignity for crying out loud. Play with some god damn pride. Robertson got hurt going into the corner for a puck in what was essentially a meaningless game.

Contrast that to Nylander pulling up in the most important game of the year.

Nylander isn't even willing to break a sweat on any given night. Let lone dare break a bone. Pretty pathetic considering that Nylander is a lot bigger than Robertson.

Except where it matters most.

The heart.

Congrats, it's August 12th and you've locked up dumbest post of the year.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Congrats, it's August 12th and you've locked up dumbest post of the year.

It’s gonna be real hard to top that one.

 

[Clyde Brewer]

I'd rather have Robertson on the team than Nylander.

Robertson has way more heart.

In 15 games last year Robertson had 18 hits. In 82 games last year Nylander had the exact same 18 hits. Pretty obvious which one gives his all every night if you ask me.

Those numbers don't even sound real.

It sounds like I'm making them up. Like it's some sort of joke. In fact it IS a joke.

Nylander should be ashamed of himself.

Have some dignity for crying out loud. Play with some god damn pride. Robertson got hurt going into the corner for a puck in what was essentially a meaningless game.

Contrast that to Nylander pulling up in the most important game of the year.

Nylander isn't even willing to break a sweat on any given night. Let lone dare break a bone. Pretty pathetic considering that Nylander is a lot bigger than Robertson.

Except where it matters most.

The heart.

When Robertson manages to be a prolific body-checker over a full season, we can discuss this further.

It doesn't matter how good he is at anything if he is going to be injured most of the season, he needs to be healthy.

As for now, I value Nylander's 40 goals more than Robertson's 18 hits.

 

[Rob Brown]

I'd rather have Robertson on the team than Nylander.

Robertson has way more heart.

In 15 games last year Robertson had 18 hits. In 82 games last year Nylander had the exact same 18 hits. Pretty obvious which one gives his all every night if you ask me.

Those numbers don't even sound real.

It sounds like I'm making them up. Like it's some sort of joke. In fact it IS a joke.

Nylander should be ashamed of himself.

Have some dignity for crying out loud. Play with some god damn pride. Robertson got hurt going into the corner for a puck in what was essentially a meaningless game.

Contrast that to Nylander pulling up in the most important game of the year.

Nylander isn't even willing to break a sweat on any given night. Let lone dare break a bone. Pretty pathetic considering that Nylander is a lot bigger than Robertson.

Except where it matters most.

The heart.

lol

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

When Robertson manages to be a prolific body-checker over a full season, we can discuss this further.

It doesn't matter how good he is at anything if he is going to be injured most of the season, be needs to be healthy.

As for now, I value Nylander's 40 goals Robertson's 18 hits.

Congrats, it's August 12th and you've locked up dumbest post of the year.

It’s gonna be real hard to top that one.

Thanks for the response.

I'm sorry, but I didn't actually mean it literally.

As in I actually really want Robertson over Nylander on the team right now in their current capacity. I meant it to illustrate the point that I wanted players with Robertson's heart over players with Nylander's heart. I would love to have a whole team of players with hearts of Robertson's.

I'm surprised I have to even say that.

 

[PromisedLand]

If Robertson can stay healthy, we could have ourselves a pretty good top nine winger.

I would honestly run these lines

Bertuzzi-Matthews-Nylander
Knies-Domi-Marner
Robertson-Tavares-Jankrok
Lafferty-Kampf-Reeves

playing JT on the top2 lines as a center is just not going to cut it as far as I am concerned. Let the three 11 AAV guys run their lines

 

[LeafalCrusader]

Congrats, it's August 12th and you've locked up dumbest post of the year.

Still lots of time left.

 

[ULF_55]

Thanks for the response.

I'm sorry, but I didn't actually mean it literally.

As in I actually really want Robertson over Nylander on the team right now in their current capacity. I meant it to illustrate the point that I wanted players with Robertson's heart over players with Nylander's heart. I would love to have a whole team of players with hearts of Robertson's.

I'm surprised I have to even say that.

I'd rather have Mario on the team than Matthews.

Speaking of Robertson nice to see his family giving to the needy.

Wish both showed up with all the kids in the picture though. Just his brother and some small kids there.

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[Frostitute]

Thanks for the response.

I'm sorry, but I didn't actually mean it literally.

As in I actually really want Robertson over Nylander on the team right now in their current capacity. I meant it to illustrate the point that I wanted players with Robertson's heart over players with Nylander's heart. I would love to have a whole team of players with hearts of Robertson's.

I'm surprised I have to even say that.

It's just that your initial post didn't read as sarcastic at all. There ARE a LOT of idiots on the interwebs I agree Robertson has heart by the bucket full but hits isn't the only way to measure a mans heart.

Nylander has gotten more and more consistent over the years and has been the only guy besides Rielly to show up time and time again in the post season.

Infact, apparently a lot of his inconsistencies were apparently due to horrible migraines that he PLAYED THROUGH up until adjusting his visor last season. Seems to me it helped as he set career highs in goals and points. Not sure if you have ever had a severe migrane but getting out of bed and walking to the bathroom can be a challenge, let alone play an NHL caliber game in an area with 19k screaming fans on a white sheet of ice while pro athletes try to take your head off.

Nylander has heart. He's not a scrapper, he doesn't lay people out but he doesn't have to. That's not everyones game.

Give me a team full of Willy Styles' anyday.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

I'd rather have Mario on the team than Matthews.

Speaking of Robertson nice to see his family giving to the needy.

Wish both showed up with all the kids in the picture though. Just his brother and some small kids there.

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Thanks for the response.

That was a nice gesture by them. Quite a few Leafs will do charitable events for Sick Kids as well. It's always appreciated to see these guys give back to the community.

Now if they could just bring the damn Cup home....

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

It's just that your initial post didn't read as sarcastic at all. There ARE a LOT of idiots on the interwebs I agree Robertson has heart by the bucket full but hits isn't the only way to measure a mans heart.

Nylander has gotten more and more consistent over the years and has been the only guy besides Rielly to show up time and time again in the post season.

Infact, apparently a lot of his inconsistencies were apparently due to horrible migraines that he PLAYED THROUGH up until adjusting his visor last season. Seems to me it helped as he set career highs in goals and points. Not sure if you have ever had a severe migrane but getting out of bed and walking to the bathroom can be a challenge, let alone play an NHL caliber game in an area with 19k screaming fans on a white sheet of ice while pro athletes try to take your head off.

Nylander has heart. He's not a scrapper, he doesn't lay people out but he doesn't have to. That's not everyones game.

Give me a team full of Willy Styles' anyday.

Thanks for the response.

Lol.... I'll have to start prefacing my comments I suppose.

I never actually heard anything about Nylander's migraines. Usually they are a symptom of concussions in athletes. Nolan Patrick essentially had his career ended because of them.

I can see why they would be a problem, and if it was a health condition that was preventing Nylander from giving his all before, then now that it's taken care of we should all be able to see just how much heart he really has to give.

He has no more excuses for inconsistent half assed efforts anymore.

 

[Zur En Arrh]

I'd rather have Robertson on the team than Nylander.

Robertson has way more heart.

In 15 games last year Robertson had 18 hits. In 82 games last year Nylander had the exact same 18 hits. Pretty obvious which one gives his all every night if you ask me.

Those numbers don't even sound real.

It sounds like I'm making them up. Like it's some sort of joke. In fact it IS a joke.

Nylander should be ashamed of himself.

Have some dignity for crying out loud. Play with some god damn pride. Robertson got hurt going into the corner for a puck in what was essentially a meaningless game.

Contrast that to Nylander pulling up in the most important game of the year.

Nylander isn't even willing to break a sweat on any given night. Let lone dare break a bone. Pretty pathetic considering that Nylander is a lot bigger than Robertson.

Except where it matters most.

The heart.

I bet you wept when Ritchie was left on the board eh...

 

[bossram]

I'm sorry, Robertson just isn't going to be an NHL player despite my early optimism on him. He's small, but doesn't have the skating, tenacity, or hockey sense to outweigh that. And the multiple injuries have prevented him from putting on the strength to not get outmuscled at his size. The only way he's going to create offense is by other guys setting up chances for him in shooting positions.

Watching him live, his defensive awareness is extremely poor. He doesn't have utility there either.

People were so hyped on him in preseason last year, but I said from the outset that Holmberg was more likely to be an NHLer and be a better NHLer. It's too bad, but if there is any trade value there, they should explore it.

 

[JT AM da real deal]

He will get a shot at camp .. but if his skating is not massively improved he will be back with Marlies working on his skating .. small wingers gotta fly

 

[darrylsittler27]

Id love Robertson to play the way he can so we can trade Nylander. The Leafs have enough offense even without Nylander. Few teams have more offense than the Leafs but offense doesnt win cups.

 

[Sypher04]

He will get a shot at camp .. but if his skating is not massively improved he will be back with Marlies working on his skating .. small wingers gotta fly

Skating wasn’t really a problem, not that it’d be a bad thing if he gained a step

 

[Sypher04]

I'm sorry, Robertson just isn't going to be an NHL player despite my early optimism on him. He's small, but doesn't have the skating, tenacity, or hockey sense to outweigh that. And the multiple injuries have prevented him from putting on the strength to not get outmuscled at his size. The only way he's going to create offense is by other guys setting up chances for him in shooting positions.

Watching him live, his defensive awareness is extremely poor. He doesn't have utility there either.

People were so hyped on him in preseason last year, but I said from the outset that Holmberg was more likely to be an NHLer and be a better NHLer. It's too bad, but if there is any trade value there, they should explore it.

The kid is 21 and has played extremely little hockey the last few years. As you indicated his trade value cannot be great at the moment so there really is zero upside to trading him. He need to play hockey. His skating is perfectly fine, his defensive game/hockey sense needs refinement (again he hasn’t played enough), but yes his biggest issue is strength. Hopefully he’s having a good summer but I don’t expect him to get there in one offseason.

In any case there’s no reason to be writing him off right now, even if I can understand some optimism about his ceiling being snuffed somewhat.

 

[Nineteen67]

He has options and needs to play, so even if he‘s dynamite in preseason he should start in the minors and work on improving.

They can always call him up.