No doubt he's worked hard to put himself in a good position. I was mostly being facetious.
The growth before landing in Edmonton came from riding shotgun with Matthews and Marner his last two years in Toronto, albeit only with second unit PP time there.
Holy overreaction….it was in talking about complimentary players (and how some guys are just perfect for that role)….ya know in Edmonton….where this guy is ya know….playing now….chill.
I’m very chill my dude. Was just making a point, AND, you weren’t the only one to mention this (not that’s it always about YOU, of course
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Meh. Play long enough, and this could be done for a lot of players.
Also, it's never so one-sided as it's been described. Yes you need play drivers, but "complimentary" players are equally important. Being good enough to capitalize on what a Matthews or McDavid is doing is a skill of its own. Plenty of players can't do that and you see what happens then... either McDavid does it all himself or his play driving goes nowhere. Tex used to talk about this a lot, actually, as one of the things the Caps hadn't done enough of early in Ovie's career--get complimentary forwards who were good enough to make hay off of Ovie's greatness. Teams don't win without that, so Hyman is a valuable piece in his own right.
I mean... isn't that basically Oshie? We can't really love Oshie like we do and then act like that role isn't valued.
Yes, exactly. I'm not sure anyone is "acting like" the role isn't valued. I'm just saying that fans often underestimate those players and assume that their achievements are the product of their linemates rather than their own contributions. (But also it took a long time before they got Oshie.)
I should be clearer, maybe not that they aren't valued but that the phrase "complimentary player" seems to be used dismissively like they're B/C-tier acquisitions. In reality we're talking about "glue guys" and should treat it as a role same as "goal scorers" or "puck moving D".
Did anyone here use the phrase "complimentary player" dismissively? I said it in response to another poster talking about his career ascension based on his point totals, and my point was just that this wasn't a guy developing a new dimension to his game offensively but rather playing with progressively better players and seeing his point totals rise as a result. Never meant to imply that complimentary players are unimportant or that Hyman isn't worth his contract.
I'm not really talking about now specifically, but through discourse both here and elsewhere it has come to mean "less important" to some. The idea that if you're complimentary you're not a "play driver" and thus less valuable to the game isn't outright stated, but it can be a dismissive way to label players who bring something that isn't quantified in stats easily for some people.
Mammoth! I love that.
