League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) - 2022-23 season, Vol. 4, Off-season Edition

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AlexModvechkin8

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Trap game, nothing to see here. Wake me up when they lay one of these in the playoffs
0-4-1 in their last 5. Negative goal differential in those defeats: 4, 3, 1, 2, 6. Teams they lost to: Pittsburgh, Florida, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Carolina.

They’ll snap out of it but not exactly how you want to be playing coming out of the trade deadline, especially against teams you’re supposed to be better than (except Carolina). That said, they’ve been to the Cup Final three years running while winning two of those and they’re essentially locked into AD3 and playing Toronto — barring a historic collapse — so it’s not all that surprising that they’re slumping during the slog of the season in late Feb / early March.

They should panic and fire Cooper at the end of the season so Washington can hire him.
 

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0-4-1 in their last 5. Negative goal differential in those defeats: 4, 3, 1, 2, 6. Teams they lost to: Pittsburgh, Florida, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Carolina.

They’ll snap out of it but not exactly how you want to be playing coming out of the trade deadline, especially against teams you’re supposed to be better than (except Carolina). That said, they’ve been to the Cup Final three years running while winning two of those and they’re essentially locked into AD3 and playing Toronto — barring a historic collapse — so it’s not all that surprising that they’re slumping during the slog of the season in late Feb / early March.

They should panic and fire Cooper at the end of the season so Washington can hire him.
Yeah thinking the same thing - probably mileage / fatigue catching up.

And hell yes to Cooper behind the bench. I guess it's ok to dream!
 
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0-4-1 in their last 5. Negative goal differential in those defeats: 4, 3, 1, 2, 6. Teams they lost to: Pittsburgh, Florida, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Carolina.

They’ll snap out of it but not exactly how you want to be playing coming out of the trade deadline, especially against teams you’re supposed to be better than (except Carolina). That said, they’ve been to the Cup Final three years running while winning two of those and they’re essentially locked into AD3 and playing Toronto — barring a historic collapse — so it’s not all that surprising that they’re slumping during the slog of the season in late Feb / early March.

They should panic and fire Cooper at the end of the season so Washington can hire him.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the year we won we laid some huge egg around this time and were like one game from firing Trotz (SJ game too). Playoffs is a blank slate for a lot of teams and the first playoff game often has more of an impact on the following ones than the 30 RS games preceding it
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but the year we won we laid some huge egg around this time and were like one game from firing Trotz (SJ game too). Playoffs is a blank slate for a lot of teams and the first playoff game often has more of an impact on the following ones than the 30 RS games preceding it
Washington went something like 15-5 the last 20 games of 2018. They had a stretch in January when they went 3-6-1 which is what I think you are referring to. They also had a stretch in November when they looked dead in the water.

And Washington lost the first two games of their first series, at home.
 

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Washington went something like 15-5 the last 20 games of 2018. They had a stretch in January when they went 3-6-1 which is what I think you are referring to. They also had a stretch in November when they looked dead in the water.

And Washington lost the first two games of their first series, at home.
I was there for those games. Also there when we took out Tampa which was great.

We were behind in every series on that run including to Vegas as we lost game one before winning 4 straight. So amazing!
 

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Washington went something like 15-5 the last 20 games of 2018. They had a stretch in January when they went 3-6-1 which is what I think you are referring to. They also had a stretch in November when they looked dead in the water.

And Washington lost the first two games of their first series, at home.
Yea Grubby was really hot at the end of 2018, but then gave up like 9 goals in less than 2 games to Columbus. I remember being so disgusted, with no hope of even getting by Columbus.

Then Holtby came in, a post was hit and then Eller wins game 3 in double OT, and the rest as they say… Hockey really makes no sense sometimes, lol. I always loved the symmetry of Eller winning the first and last games for us in 2018 - both on rebounds from Connolly shots.

So, I’ll salute The Tiger and wish him more luck with the Avs this Spring!
 

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We aren't really as good as others at this tanking thing.
No, we're really bad at it. At this point, we might as well try to go on a run and squeak into the playoffs. Could be a chance for some of our less experienced players to get a taste of playoff intensity, even if we get booted in the first round. Now that the roster has thinned out a bit, some of the youngsters might be able see some playing time.
 

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No, we're really bad at it. At this point, we might as well try to go on a run and squeak into the playoffs. Could be a chance for some of our less experienced players to get a taste of playoff intensity, even if we get booted in the first round. Now that the roster has thinned out a bit, some of the youngsters might be able see some playing time.

It’s pretty much impossible for Washington to finish below 10th worst at this point. STL is 9th worst and are 9 points behind WSH. So tanking at this point is really about keeping themselves at the 10th or 11th spot so they have an outside chance at landing Bedard.

DET appears to have thrown in the towel but FLA, CGY, NYI, and OTT should all be competing for playoff spots. I think they should be in that 10th-11th worst range as long as they don’t play like .650 or better the rest of the way.
 

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Oh boy - somebody just scored their 53rd goal of the season. Only needs 13 more with 18 games left (including the current one). Here's hoping he doesn't make it!
 

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Oh boy - somebody just scored their 53rd goal of the season. Only needs 13 more with 18 games left (including the current one). Here's hoping he doesn't make it!

This wouldn't bother me a bit. 0% of what makes Ovi amazing has to do with him getting 65 goals once. It's that he's averaged 45 a year for 18 years. There's really only one guy who's ever done that despite the fact that the league's been around a century with thousands of players trying their damnedest to score goals. And that other guy didn't come close to doing it as consistently -- he scored the vast majority of his goals over a decently long stretch, but had many years where his goal-scoring prowess was nothing special.

The even more amazing thing is the nature of his consistency and durability; that he was that incredible that consistently with no major injuries despite being one of the most physical forwards in the game. Nothing about that last sentence should be true. Those three ideas -- being that physically dominant, that offensively gifted, and never getting injured -- shouldn't go together. It's a stunning achievement.

Gretzky will be the first guy to tell you to never say never. No one was ever going to break his record, and then this guy happened. But what Ovi has done and more specifically the way he's done it? I'm pretty comfortable saying never. No one will ever be that physical, that durable, and that offensively potent again. Never.

Does McDavid topping Ovi's 1-season best mean anything? McDavid would be amazing playing anywhere and with anyone, but that's an offense that leverages him perfectly. I'm not sure Ovi has ever really had that, and certainly not after Semin. McDavid's Semin is better and isn't going anywhere, and that's helpful. Ovi's gift is more specific. He's less dynamic. He's a specialist; McDavid is a wizard.

Let McDavid string together 10-12 years of big goals and no injuries, then there'll be a conversation worth having. Until then, Ovi is literally in a class by himself.
 

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This wouldn't bother me a bit. 0% of what makes Ovi amazing has to do with him getting 65 goals once. It's that he's averaged 45 a year for 18 years. There's really only one guy who's ever done that despite the fact that the league's been around a century with thousands of players trying their damnedest to score goals. And that other guy didn't come close to doing it as consistently -- he scored the vast majority of his goals over a decently long stretch, but had many years where his goal-scoring prowess was nothing special.

The even more amazing thing is the nature of his consistency and durability; that he was that incredible that consistently with no major injuries despite being one of the most physical forwards in the game. Nothing about that last sentence should be true. Those three ideas -- being that physically dominant, that offensively gifted, and never getting injured -- shouldn't go together. It's a stunning achievement.

Gretzky will be the first guy to tell you to never say never. No one was ever going to break his record, and then this guy happened. But what Ovi has done and more specifically the way he's done it? I'm pretty comfortable saying never. No one will ever be that physical, that durable, and that offensively potent again. Never.

Does McDavid topping Ovi's 1-season best mean anything? McDavid would be amazing playing anywhere and with anyone, but that's an offense that leverages him perfectly. I'm not sure Ovi has ever really had that, and certainly not after Semin. McDavid's Semin is better and isn't going anywhere, and that's helpful. Ovi's gift is more specific. He's less dynamic. He's a specialist; McDavid is a wizard.

Let McDavid string together 10-12 years of big goals and no injuries, then there'll be a conversation worth having. Until then, Ovi is literally in a class by himself.
Well said.

It's more about seeing other players take away Ovie's records / streaks etc. I'm a big fan of stats (no not the fancy ones, just the old timer ones!).
 
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AlexModvechkin8

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This wouldn't bother me a bit. 0% of what makes Ovi amazing has to do with him getting 65 goals once. It's that he's averaged 45 a year for 18 years. There's really only one guy who's ever done that despite the fact that the league's been around a century with thousands of players trying their damnedest to score goals. And that other guy didn't come close to doing it as consistently -- he scored the vast majority of his goals over a decently long stretch, but had many years where his goal-scoring prowess was nothing special.

The even more amazing thing is the nature of his consistency and durability; that he was that incredible that consistently with no major injuries despite being one of the most physical forwards in the game. Nothing about that last sentence should be true. Those three ideas -- being that physically dominant, that offensively gifted, and never getting injured -- shouldn't go together. It's a stunning achievement.

Gretzky will be the first guy to tell you to never say never. No one was ever going to break his record, and then this guy happened. But what Ovi has done and more specifically the way he's done it? I'm pretty comfortable saying never. No one will ever be that physical, that durable, and that offensively potent again. Never.

Does McDavid topping Ovi's 1-season best mean anything? McDavid would be amazing playing anywhere and with anyone, but that's an offense that leverages him perfectly. I'm not sure Ovi has ever really had that, and certainly not after Semin. McDavid's Semin is better and isn't going anywhere, and that's helpful. Ovi's gift is more specific. He's less dynamic. He's a specialist; McDavid is a wizard.

Let McDavid string together 10-12 years of big goals and no injuries, then there'll be a conversation worth having. Until then, Ovi is literally in a class by himself.
If anything McDavid breaking Ovi’s mark speaks to how good #8 was at his peak. McDavid is the unanimous best player on the planet and routinely makes NHLers look like beer leaguers. He’s like a video game create-a-player with 100 speed, 100 acceleration, 100 offense so for him to pass Ovi on that one mark in his 8th season when Ovi did it in his 3rd reinforces what a freak young Ovi was. And Ovechkin did it in an era where scoring was much more difficult.
 
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