League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) - 2022-23 season, Vol. 4, Off-season Edition

[Ovechkins Wodka]

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At the very least HOF for this.

(I probably have 5 of these cards somewhere)

He was a cheat code in NHL94. Dude would get like 5 goals a game.

 

[usiel]

Not sure if it is been posted or even if this is the best thread but details on the NBCSN takeover by Monumental have come out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/06/21/monumental-sports-network-rachel-nichols/

Other new shows in the works include two weekly series offering behind-the-scenes looks at the Capitals and Wizards, hosted by NBCSW veterans Alexa Landestoy and Wes Hall, respectively. A new countdown-style show will rank some of the greatest moments, plays and athletes in Capitals and Wizards history. The network also plans to reach into the archives to broadcast full or condensed classic games, potentially with commentary from those who played in them.

The new programming will bolster a lineup that has relied heavily on infomercials to fill airspace outside of game coverage.


“When you tune in on a game day in the early afternoon, we want you to understand that something exciting is happening that night,” Leonsis said. “I joke with our staff that I don’t want to see air fryer ads around lunchtime on our network anymore. I want to see something valuable. I want to see something that delivers value to our fans and advertising partners.”

Also other stuff updated graphics to include moar fancy stats. Sideline reports will travel for all games. Two new camera angles for home games (ice level, announcer position). I did not know this but they are building a new production facility adjacent to the arena due to finish next year but sounds like they are interested in having alternate broadcasts ala Maningcast with rotating former players. Look forward to the Leaders of Men crew in Laich and Brouwer to make an appearence here.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Wow they got rid of them all...

 

[Hivemind]

Wow they got rid of them all...

I wonder how many of those who bitched about Pride Night jerseys will realize this also takes away their camo memorial day and veterans day jerseys.

 

[Calicaps]

I wonder how many of those who bitched about Pride Night jerseys will realize this also takes away their camo memorial day and veterans day jerseys.

This is the right decision. The whole Pride debacle made them look like total assholes. All or nothing is the way to go.

 

[usiel]

Wow they got rid of them all...

Coward's move.

 

[tycoonheart]

Coward's move.

Absolutely. I hope they get a lot of shit for this.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Wow they got rid of them all...

Funny….I bet that wasn’t the solution some were hoping for. Eliminate the controversy is the easier path for sure.

This is the right decision. The whole Pride debacle made them look like total assholes. All or nothing is the way to go.

Yup this.

 

[Kalopsia]

Someone on reddit made a huge table showing each team's win rate against every other team over the last 10 years. The Caps are 50% or better against all but five teams. Only one of them really surprised me, here they are with spoiler tags if anyone wants to guess.

28% -

Spoiler

Dallas Stars

33% -

Spoiler

Nashville Predators

40% -

Spoiler

Vegas Golden Knights

41% -

Spoiler

Florida Panthers

43% -

Spoiler

Pittsburgh Penguins

Fun fact, the Caps are 59% or better against every Canadian team in that span. They should start singing O Canada at every home game, the boys seem to like it.

 

[usiel]

From my old eyes unsurprised by dallas/nashville/florida. Sort of surprised by vegas but probably beating them to win a Cup naturally led me to give no shits for regular seasons losses.

 

[HTFN]

From my old eyes unsurprised by dallas/nashville/florida. Sort of surprised by vegas but probably beating them to win a Cup naturally led me to give no shits for regular seasons losses.

Yeah the first few didn't surprise me either but I was surprised San Jose wasn't on the list

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Yeah the first few didn't surprise me either but I was surprised San Jose wasn't on the list

Sharks were my first thought also….

 

[Kalopsia]

Yeah the first few didn't surprise me either but I was surprised San Jose wasn't on the list

Sharks were my first thought also….

They're one of 4 teams the Caps were dead even with, along with the Kings, Coyotes (!!!), and Kraken.

 

[Random schmoe]

There's definitely a smaller sample size with Vegas vs other teams. By my rough count, they've only played 10 regular season and 5 playoff games against against each other.

I didn't see it explicitly stated and didn't read all the comments/q&a.. was it clarified whether this was regular season only or including playoffs?

 

[g00n]

Coward's move.

This.

Imagine being so f***ing afraid of bigoted gay-bashing zealots that you trash your military appreciation and anti-cancer jerseys as a sacrifice.

Complete cowardice.

 

[Capitals40]

This.

Imagine being so f***ing afraid of bigoted gay-bashing zealots that you trash your military appreciation and anti-cancer jerseys as a sacrifice.

Complete cowardice.

Im sure the Russian players are broken hearted they cant wear military appreciation jerseys. Seriously, I've always thought this is stupid..having players from different countries wearing jerseys to honor the U.S. military.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

This.

Imagine being so f***ing afraid of bigoted gay-bashing zealots that you trash your military appreciation and anti-cancer jerseys as a sacrifice.

Complete cowardice.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the NHLPA supported this decision behind the scenes. Easier to eliminate the controversy than keep forcing players to do something like this in a collectively bargained environment.

easier just to wave your hand and make it all go away….

 

[crazy8888]

I agree with this move. I dont think this is done to cater to the gay bashing idiots. Some people didint like the pride jerseys, some people didint like that 1 player from some teams refused to wear one. It was just drama all around. Its all symbolic anyway, whether its pride jerseys or to support the veterans. Personally i watch hockey just to watch hockey, there are other times to address all other issues.
If NHL trully wants to make a difference they should put their money where their mouth is. Take some of the revenue from the billions that they are making and give it to groups that are are trully working on making a positive difference in this world whether its for veterans or lgbtq community. Just dont give a penny to any organizations that will use this money to buy mantions.

 

[Calicaps]

This.

Imagine being so f***ing afraid of bigoted gay-bashing zealots that you trash your military appreciation and anti-cancer jerseys as a sacrifice.

Complete cowardice.

It is, but it's also the right thing. The league and the teams apparently can't enforce the pride celebrations. So just cutting those out would be awful. Maybe in the next CBA they revisit this and make human decency mandatory.

 

[Jags]

It is, but it's also the right thing. The league and the teams apparently can't enforce the pride celebrations. So just cutting those out would be awful. Maybe in the next CBA they revisit this and make human decency mandatory.

Exactly. Activism isn't activism if it's forced or coerced. And now that they've had these refusals and protests, it's even more suspect.

The idea behind it was good, heart definitely in the right place. But the execution was clumsy. Given how badly it could backfire, why not poll the players first? "Hey, would anyone here refuse if we did a gay pride sweater during warmups? Oh, really? Shit, bad idea then."

Trusting that a large group of international alpha males -- some from countries that are pretty publicly anti-gay -- are universally accepting without asking is kinda like casually opening that soda that someone just tossed you from across the room. Doing it with confidence in no way affects the chances that it'll blow up in your face.

 

[Calicaps]

Exactly. Activism isn't activism if it's forced or coerced. And now that they've had these refusals and protests, it's even more suspect.

The idea behind it was good, heart definitely in the right place. But the execution was clumsy. Given how badly it could backfire, why not poll the players first? "Hey, would anyone here refuse if we did a gay pride sweater during warmups? Oh, really? Shit, bad idea then."

Trusting that a large group of international alpha males -- some from countries that are pretty publicly anti-gay -- are universally accepting without asking is kinda like casually opening that soda that someone just tossed you from across the room. Doing it with confidence in no way affects the chances that it'll blow up in your face.

Yeah, no. While I agree that the league was naive to assume everyone would just hop on board, This is not to my point at all. The activism isn't the players' it's the league's and the teams'.

But the players have a union and a CBA. The league didn't negotiate participation in league activist events as a requirement for employment in the CBA because I guess they assumed it was either understood or noncontroversial. Either way they were wrong.

But polling the players? NO

The league has PR and community-engagement needs. The Pride failures this year made them look like bumbling idiots. But they still need to find a way to actually stand for the things they claim to stand for (Hockey is for everyone, etc.). And that will mean getting it into the next contract that these events, whatever they end up looking like in the future, are a required part of the job, no matter what individual players, or even groups of players, think.

 

[g00n]

Yeah, no. While I agree that the league was naive to assume everyone would just hop on board, This is not to my point at all. The activism isn't the players' it's the league's and the teams'.

But the players have a union and a CBA. The league didn't negotiate participation in league activist events as a requirement for employment in the CBA because I guess they assumed it was either understood or noncontroversial. Either way they were wrong.

But polling the players? NO

The league has PR and community-engagement needs. The Pride failures this year made them look like bumbling idiots. But they still need to find a way to actually stand for the things they claim to stand for (Hockey is for everyone, etc.). And that will mean getting it into the next contract that these events, whatever they end up looking like in the future, are a required part of the job, no matter what individual players, or even groups of players, think.

Agree. But also sometimes there are junctures in history where people need to say "f*** the contract, f*** the rules" and stand up for what's right.

The NHL and a lot of players are failing that test right now, and are coasting along the same default, easy path taken by millions of others who've remained complicit in status quo acceptance of active persecution.

 

[Calicaps]

Agree. But also sometimes there are junctures in history where people need to say "f*** the contract, f*** the rules" and stand up for what's right.

The NHL and a lot of players are failing that test right now, and are coasting along the same default, easy path taken by millions of others who've remained complicit in status quo acceptance of active persecution.

I agree, though as a big union booster I can't get behind the idea that management should try to undercut the union just because I happen to agree with what management was trying to do in this particular case. Because the union will be weaker for it overall and then management will use that to strong-arm them on some far less palatable bullshit.

 

[g00n]

I agree, though as a big union booster I can't get behind the idea that management should try to undercut the union just because I happen to agree with what management was trying to do in this particular case. Because the union will be weaker for it overall and then management will use that to strong-arm them on some far less palatable bullshit.

I would say "just make it voluntary and keep it" but that would also create a situation where those who DON'T wear the jersey end up getting more attention than the cause.

If it were me, as a seasoned shit-disturber, I'd probably just do it whether or not the team or union approved.

 

[Corby78]

This is the right decision. The whole Pride debacle made them look like total assholes. All or nothing is the way to go.

This, focus on hockey, right now you can’t please people with this stuff so just stay out of it.

I would say "just make it voluntary and keep it" but that would also create a situation where those who DON'T wear the jersey end up getting more attention than the cause.

If it were me, as a seasoned shit-disturber, I'd probably just do it whether or not the team or union approved.

gOOn do something to rile people up????? I don’t believe it lol