NHL Mega-Mock Draft Reboot - Discussion / Draft Thread - SUPPLEMENTAL SUPERGROUP 2 SUPERDRAFT!
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Most people here disappoint me, so I am not surprised in the least.
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Pick #1: Alex Chilton
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Born in Memphis, Chilton burst onto the scene in 1967 with The Box Tops and their #1 hit, The Letter, at just 16 years old. They followed that up with a lot of other great blue-eyed soul cuts, including Soul Deep and Cry Like a Baby. Alex’s singing with the Box Tops was all gravely soul that belied that he was a skinny white teenager.
The Box Tops fizzled out by 1970, but just a year later, Chilton found himself joining a Memphis band called Icewater. They renamed themselves Big Star and would go on to become one of the most influential bands ever. Chilton and [Ranch] were a songwriting duo on par with anyone, up to and including Lennon & McCartney. Their debut album, the winkingly titled power pop masterpiece #1 Record, was released to universal acclaim, and the stage was set for world domination. But then a funny thing happened, their record label couldn't get records on shelves. In an effort to fix that, they sold to Columbia, who then promptly pulled the album.
Chilton wrote a lot of great songs on the album, but Thirteen is the highlight of highlights, and perhaps the greatest ode to adolescent love and innocence ever written:
Deeply frustrated by the fate of their debut album, the band went back into the studio to record a follow-up only for everything to fall apart. There was literal fighting between band members, and [Ranch]'s drug habit and depression led to him departing, leaving Chilton without his songwriting partner. The band even briefly broke-up before deciding to get back together as a 3 piece. It's a great thing that they did, because they would go on to release the acclaimed and still winkingly titled Radio City - i.e. it was going to get tons of airplay. Once again, however, fate stepped in and record label shenanigans meant that records weren't on shelves. Only 20,000 copies sold, but right there, on side 2, track 10, is the greatest power pop song ever recorded, the oft-covered and genre-defining September Gurls:
Big Star went back into the studio and Chilton did something completely unexpected. He followed up two albums of pure power pop with a strangely haunting effort that reflected his disillusionment with everything and the toll it was taking on him. He was allowed total creative freedom and produced an album that no one at the time wanted to touch. It was promptly shelved and was never even properly titled, and it was the death knell for the band. Third/Sister Lovers only really saw the light of day a few years later after the first two Big Star records were re-released together in the UK and a real following developed. Here is the devastating Holocaust from the album:
Any plans for the band to get back together however ended when [Ranch] crashed his car into a tree, dying just as the star-crossed Big Star was finally getting it's well-deserved due.
Chilton then struck out on a solo career and spent time in NYC playing shows at CBGBs just as the punk movement was in full swing. He befriended some of the bands in that scene and produced a few records, and started to become something of a cult figure. Things came full circle when one of those band, The Replacements, wrote an homage him (that they hid from him, because they were worried it wasn't cool enough), appropriately titled Alex Chilton.
And children by the million sing for Alex Chilton
When he comes 'round
They sing, "I'm in love
And what's that song?"
Or, "I'm in love
With that song"
I never travel far
Without a little Big Star
Alex Chilton the song led to renewed interest in Alex Chilton and Big Star. The band would reunite without the deceased [Ranch], supported by [Ranch] and [Liverwurst] from the Posies and spent the rest of the 90's and 00's touring on the Big Star catalogue until Chilton died of a heart attack in New Orleans in 2010, at just 59 years old.
I was lucky enough to see him play the Khyber Pass Pub some time around 2003, and it was a fantastic show. Such an intimate setting and he played for at least an hour and a half, taking requests from the audience, and was beamingly happy on stage.
@Strawberry Fields
Born in Memphis, Chilton burst onto the scene in 1967 with The Box Tops and their #1 hit, The Letter, at just 16 years old. They followed that up with a lot of other great blue-eyed soul cuts, including Soul Deep and Cry Like a Baby. Alex’s singing with the Box Tops was all gravely soul that belied that he was a skinny white teenager.
The Box Tops fizzled out by 1970, but just a year later, Chilton found himself joining a Memphis band called Icewater. They renamed themselves Big Star and would go on to become one of the most influential bands ever. Chilton and [Ranch] were a songwriting duo on par with anyone, up to and including Lennon & McCartney. Their debut album, the winkingly titled power pop masterpiece #1 Record, was released to universal acclaim, and the stage was set for world domination. But then a funny thing happened, their record label couldn't get records on shelves. In an effort to fix that, they sold to Columbia, who then promptly pulled the album.
Chilton wrote a lot of great songs on the album, but Thirteen is the highlight of highlights, and perhaps the greatest ode to adolescent love and innocence ever written:
Deeply frustrated by the fate of their debut album, the band went back into the studio to record a follow-up only for everything to fall apart. There was literal fighting between band members, and [Ranch]'s drug habit and depression led to him departing, leaving Chilton without his songwriting partner. The band even briefly broke-up before deciding to get back together as a 3 piece. It's a great thing that they did, because they would go on to release the acclaimed and still winkingly titled Radio City - i.e. it was going to get tons of airplay. Once again, however, fate stepped in and record label shenanigans meant that records weren't on shelves. Only 20,000 copies sold, but right there, on side 2, track 10, is the greatest power pop song ever recorded, the oft-covered and genre-defining September Gurls:
Big Star went back into the studio and Chilton did something completely unexpected. He followed up two albums of pure power pop with a strangely haunting effort that reflected his disillusionment with everything and the toll it was taking on him. He was allowed total creative freedom and produced an album that no one at the time wanted to touch. It was promptly shelved and was never even properly titled, and it was the death knell for the band. Third/Sister Lovers only really saw the light of day a few years later after the first two Big Star records were re-released together in the UK and a real following developed. Here is the devastating Holocaust from the album:
Any plans for the band to get back together however ended when [Ranch] crashed his car into a tree, dying just as the star-crossed Big Star was finally getting it's well-deserved due.
Chilton then struck out on a solo career and spent time in NYC playing shows at CBGBs just as the punk movement was in full swing. He befriended some of the bands in that scene and produced a few records, and started to become something of a cult figure. Things came full circle when one of those band, The Replacements, wrote an homage him (that they hid from him, because they were worried it wasn't cool enough), appropriately titled Alex Chilton.
And children by the million sing for Alex Chilton
When he comes 'round
They sing, "I'm in love
And what's that song?"
Or, "I'm in love
With that song"
I never travel far
Without a little Big Star
Alex Chilton the song led to renewed interest in Alex Chilton and Big Star. The band would reunite without the deceased [Ranch], supported by [Ranch] and [Liverwurst] from the Posies and spent the rest of the 90's and 00's touring on the Big Star catalogue until Chilton died of a heart attack in New Orleans in 2010, at just 59 years old.
I was lucky enough to see him play the Khyber Pass Pub some time around 2003, and it was a fantastic show. Such an intimate setting and he played for at least an hour and a half, taking requests from the audience, and was beamingly happy on stage.
@Strawberry Fields
Pick #1: Alex Chilton
Born in Memphis, Chilton burst onto the scene in 1967 with The Box Tops and their #1 hit, The Letter, at just 16 years old. They followed that up with a lot of other great blue-eyed soul cuts, including Soul Deep and Cry Like a Baby. Alex’s singing with the Box Tops was all gravely soul that belied that he was a skinny white teenager.
The Box Tops fizzled out by 1970, but just a year later, Chilton found himself joining a Memphis band called Icewater. They renamed themselves Big Star and would go on to become one of the most influential bands ever. Chilton and [Ranch] were a songwriting duo on par with anyone, up to and including Lennon & McCartney. Their debut album, the winkingly titled power pop masterpiece #1 Record, was released to universal acclaim, and the stage was set for world domination. But then a funny thing happened, their record label couldn't get records on shelves. In an effort to fix that, they sold to Columbia, who then promptly pulled the album.
Chilton wrote a lot of great songs on the album, but Thirteen is the highlight of highlights, and perhaps the greatest ode to adolescent love and innocence ever written:
Deeply frustrated by the fate of their debut album, the band went back into the studio to record a follow-up only for everything to fall apart. There was literal fighting between band members, and [Ranch]'s drug habit and depression led to him departing, leaving Chilton without his songwriting partner. The band even briefly broke-up before deciding to get back together as a 3 piece. It's a great thing that they did, because they would go on to release the acclaimed and still winkingly titled Radio City - i.e. it was going to get tons of airplay. Once again, however, fate stepped in and record label shenanigans meant that records weren't on shelves. Only 20,000 copies sold, but right there, on side 2, track 10, is the greatest power pop song ever recorded, the oft-covered and genre-defining September Gurls:
Big Star went back into the studio and Chilton did something completely unexpected. He followed up two albums of pure power pop with a strangely haunting effort that reflected his disillusionment with everything and the toll it was taking on him. He was allowed total creative freedom and produced an album that no one at the time wanted to touch. It was promptly shelved and was never even properly titled, and it was the death knell for the band. Third/Sister Lovers only really saw the light of day a few years later after the first two Big Star records were re-released together in the UK and a real following developed. Here is the devastating Holocaust from the album:
Any plans for the band to get back together however ended when [Ranch] crashed his car into a tree, dying just as the star-crossed Big Star was finally getting it's well-deserved due.
Chilton then struck out on a solo career and spent time in NYC playing shows at CBGBs just as the punk movement was in full swing. He befriended some of the bands in that scene and produced a few records, and started to become something of a cult figure. Things came full circle when one of those band, The Replacements, wrote an homage him (that they hid from him, because they were worried it wasn't cool enough), appropriately titled Alex Chilton.
And children by the million sing for Alex Chilton
When he comes 'round
They sing, "I'm in love
And what's that song?"
Or, "I'm in love
With that song"
I never travel far
Without a little Big Star
Alex Chilton the song led to renewed interest in Alex Chilton and Big Star. The band would reunite without the deceased [Ranch], supported by [Ranch] and [Liverwurst] from the Posies and spent the rest of the 90's and 00's touring on the Big Star catalogue until Chilton died of a heart attack in New Orleans in 2010, at just 59 years old.
I was lucky enough to see him play the Khyber Pass Pub some time around 2003, and it was a fantastic show. Such an intimate setting and he played for at least an hour and a half, taking requests from the audience, and was beamingly happy on stage.
@Strawberry Fields
That is my favorite Replacements song by a billion trillion miles. Love it. Great pick.
mja
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Pick #1: Alex Chilton
Born in Memphis, Chilton burst onto the scene in 1967 with The Box Tops and their #1 hit, The Letter, at just 16 years old. They followed that up with a lot of other great blue-eyed soul cuts, including Soul Deep and Cry Like a Baby. Alex’s singing with the Box Tops was all gravely soul that belied that he was a skinny white teenager.
The Box Tops fizzled out by 1970, but just a year later, Chilton found himself joining a Memphis band called Icewater. They renamed themselves Big Star and would go on to become one of the most influential bands ever. Chilton and [Ranch] were a songwriting duo on par with anyone, up to and including Lennon & McCartney. Their debut album, the winkingly titled power pop masterpiece #1 Record, was released to universal acclaim, and the stage was set for world domination. But then a funny thing happened, their record label couldn't get records on shelves. In an effort to fix that, they sold to Columbia, who then promptly pulled the album.
Chilton wrote a lot of great songs on the album, but Thirteen is the highlight of highlights, and perhaps the greatest ode to adolescent love and innocence ever written:
Deeply frustrated by the fate of their debut album, the band went back into the studio to record a follow-up only for everything to fall apart. There was literal fighting between band members, and [Ranch]'s drug habit and depression led to him departing, leaving Chilton without his songwriting partner. The band even briefly broke-up before deciding to get back together as a 3 piece. It's a great thing that they did, because they would go on to release the acclaimed and still winkingly titled Radio City - i.e. it was going to get tons of airplay. Once again, however, fate stepped in and record label shenanigans meant that records weren't on shelves. Only 20,000 copies sold, but right there, on side 2, track 10, is the greatest power pop song ever recorded, the oft-covered and genre-defining September Gurls:
Big Star went back into the studio and Chilton did something completely unexpected. He followed up two albums of pure power pop with a strangely haunting effort that reflected his disillusionment with everything and the toll it was taking on him. He was allowed total creative freedom and produced an album that no one at the time wanted to touch. It was promptly shelved and was never even properly titled, and it was the death knell for the band. Third/Sister Lovers only really saw the light of day a few years later after the first two Big Star records were re-released together in the UK and a real following developed. Here is the devastating Holocaust from the album:
Any plans for the band to get back together however ended when [Ranch] crashed his car into a tree, dying just as the star-crossed Big Star was finally getting it's well-deserved due.
Chilton then struck out on a solo career and spent time in NYC playing shows at CBGBs just as the punk movement was in full swing. He befriended some of the bands in that scene and produced a few records, and started to become something of a cult figure. Things came full circle when one of those band, The Replacements, wrote an homage him (that they hid from him, because they were worried it wasn't cool enough), appropriately titled Alex Chilton.
And children by the million sing for Alex Chilton
When he comes 'round
They sing, "I'm in love
And what's that song?"
Or, "I'm in love
With that song"
I never travel far
Without a little Big Star
Alex Chilton the song led to renewed interest in Alex Chilton and Big Star. The band would reunite without the deceased [Ranch], supported by [Ranch] and [Liverwurst] from the Posies and spent the rest of the 90's and 00's touring on the Big Star catalogue until Chilton died of a heart attack in New Orleans in 2010, at just 59 years old.
I was lucky enough to see him play the Khyber Pass Pub some time around 2003, and it was a fantastic show. Such an intimate setting and he played for at least an hour and a half, taking requests from the audience, and was beamingly happy on stage.
@Strawberry Fields
Great pick. Also, Khyber Pass Pub is arguably the best "dive" bar in all of Philadelphia. My bachelor party kicked off there in 2015. That show must have been epic.
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Did you happen to make it there before they renovated it? It was an absolute shithole back before 2010 or so. Awesome place to hang out nonetheless.
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Nah my first time there was probably around 2013-2014 or so. I had a work training nearby and popped in there for lunch. Their bar food is as good as it gets. I brought a bag of bacon grease popcorn back to the training and people were going nuts over it lol
mja
Everything was beautiful, and nothing hurt
Complete shit hole. Amazing venue. You could reach out and touch him if you wanted to, and after the show he stepped off the stage, got a beer, and hung out with the crowd just chatting people up.
Did you have grease stains all over the withdrawal and deposit slips for weeks after that?
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Back in 2003ish, I saw someone pull a knife on a guy over a gravy vs sauce argument while The Coral played. Good times.
Sounds like a weeknight at the Khyber to me. Perfect.
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I ain't no teller - don't make me cut a bitch
You said you had TRAINING. Damn it, man.
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I'm a manager but I do actually handle a few teller transactions a day when it's busy or we're shorthanded lol
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Was the knife guy pro gravy or pro sauce
JojoTheWhale
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Oh no you don't. This is how you get a knife pulled on you.
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I am a 3rd party here, I'm just trying to get the full story
Magua
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Did you want him? I remember you being a Pumpkins fan.
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1979 is probably my all-time favorite song for a variety of reasons. I'm a big fan of their first 4 albums.
He was being heavily considered for Supergroup 2, but it's all good!
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Ty of Seagulls?
Wait no, Segal of ties
Strawberry Fields
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John Fogerty. Lead guitar/vocals
Almost took him last time but he didn't fit in anywhere after I took Lynne
@Captain Dave Poulin
Almost took him last time but he didn't fit in anywhere after I took Lynne
@Captain Dave Poulin
The way this started, I thought I might be in danger of a sniping. Thankfully, my linchpin is still there.
He can't really sing, and when he does he has a perfect British accent, even though he is from Ohio and has never (as far as I know) lived in England. He can't really play guitar, either. But he can write a damned song. He has registered the rights to over 2,400 songs. I won't claim to have heard that many, but I can't remember hearing a bad one by him. Seriously, the consistency is shocking by any measure, but when paired with that output? It's pretty crazy.
With the first Supergroup, I found myself scrambling a little to make sure I had my songwriting bases fully covered. This time, I wanted to start with the songwriting and build out from there according to the flow of the board.
I first heard his band on "120 Minutes" on a Sunday night on MTV. I don't remember which song it was, but I remember really liking it. I also remember that it was very short, like most of his songs, and those don't typically send me scurrying to find out more. But then I got the following on a compilation CD, and I was completely won over. It remains my favorite GBV song.
This is another great one, and reminds me of the aforementioned Alex Chilton, kind of.
Here is another gem nestled snuggly in with the thousands of others. I know he looks basically homeless, or at least unemployed, but you can't tell me that he isn't cool as f***.
The one thing we are going to do is push him to extend his songs - he leaves a LOT of meat on the bone. I understand that that is the appeal of them in a way, that sense of "always leave them wanting more," but I DO want more.
Now it's just a matter of seeing what flies off the board and what falls to me. Should be very interesting.
Member (phrasing) - Robert Pollard - vocals, guitar, primary songwriter
@Lord Defect
He can't really sing, and when he does he has a perfect British accent, even though he is from Ohio and has never (as far as I know) lived in England. He can't really play guitar, either. But he can write a damned song. He has registered the rights to over 2,400 songs. I won't claim to have heard that many, but I can't remember hearing a bad one by him. Seriously, the consistency is shocking by any measure, but when paired with that output? It's pretty crazy.
With the first Supergroup, I found myself scrambling a little to make sure I had my songwriting bases fully covered. This time, I wanted to start with the songwriting and build out from there according to the flow of the board.
I first heard his band on "120 Minutes" on a Sunday night on MTV. I don't remember which song it was, but I remember really liking it. I also remember that it was very short, like most of his songs, and those don't typically send me scurrying to find out more. But then I got the following on a compilation CD, and I was completely won over. It remains my favorite GBV song.
This is another great one, and reminds me of the aforementioned Alex Chilton, kind of.
Here is another gem nestled snuggly in with the thousands of others. I know he looks basically homeless, or at least unemployed, but you can't tell me that he isn't cool as f***.
The one thing we are going to do is push him to extend his songs - he leaves a LOT of meat on the bone. I understand that that is the appeal of them in a way, that sense of "always leave them wanting more," but I DO want more.
Now it's just a matter of seeing what flies off the board and what falls to me. Should be very interesting.
Member (phrasing) - Robert Pollard - vocals, guitar, primary songwriter
@Lord Defect
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