NHL Mega-Mock Draft Reboot - Discussion / Draft Thread – THANK YOU, HELLO PHASE TWENTY-SEVEN!

[Magua]

No.

Subtitles aren’t even fully accurate necessarily, so one could be purist to the point of saying reading English subtitles also cheapens the work. I didn’t read Dante’s Inferno in medieval Italian either.

Kiki’s Delivery Service takes place in Sweden anyway, so the Japanese isn’t even contextual. It simply comes down to quality of animated dubs, and no animated films are dubbed (again, they are technically all dubbed) to the quality of Ghibli. I have seen Ghibli dubbed and subbed, and it’s only a matter of preference.

 

[Lord Defect]

Subtitles aren’t even fully accurate necessarily, so one could be purist to the point of saying reading English subtitles also cheapens the work. I didn’t read Dante’s Inferno in medieval Italian either.

Kiki’s Delivery Service takes place in Sweden anyway, so the Japanese isn’t even contextual. It simply comes down to quality of animated dubs, and no animated films are dubbed (again, they are technically all dubbed) to the quality of Ghibli. I have seen Ghibli dubbed and subbed, and it’s only a matter of preference.

I have subtitles on everything I watch. It started after I couldn’t understand a thing that was said in a certain Irish mafia show on Netflix that I bailed on midway thru the first episode and then realized it was my hearing sucking and not their mangled ass English.

 

[pit]

I have subtitles on everything I watch. It started after I couldn’t understand a thing that was said in a certain Irish mafia show on Netflix that I bailed on midway thru the first episode and then realized it was my hearing sucking and not their mangled ass English.

Wait, you can read?

 

[Lord Defect]

Wait, you can read?

No but it’s nice to think that I can

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Subtitles aren’t even fully accurate necessarily, so one could be purist to the point of saying reading English subtitles also cheapens the work. I didn’t read Dante’s Inferno in medieval Italian either.

Kiki’s Delivery Service takes place in Sweden anyway, so the Japanese isn’t even contextual. It simply comes down to quality of animated dubs, and no animated films are dubbed (again, they are technically all dubbed) to the quality of Ghibli. I have seen Ghibli dubbed and subbed, and it’s only a matter of preference.

I'm mostly just being mischievous - I don't like dubs at all. One of the reasons I go to anime in the first place is to get the f*** away from Western culture. It's just a matter of preference.

I have subtitles on everything I watch. It started after I couldn’t understand a thing that was said in a certain Irish mafia show on Netflix that I bailed on midway thru the first episode and then realized it was my hearing sucking and not their mangled ass English.

I actually do this a lot, too. My hearing has gone to shit, but I also think a lot of directors allow too much mumbling from their actors.

 

[ajgoal]

I have seen Ghibli dubbed and subbed, and it’s only a matter of preference.

I've been unsuccessfully trying to add the Fox dub to my digital version of the Blu-ray video for Totoro for my wife. Unfortunately I only have it on an old dvd.

 

[Lord Defect]

I'm mostly just being mischievous - I don't like dubs at all. One of the reasons I go to anime in the first place is to get the f*** away from Western culture. It's just a matter of preference.



I actually do this a lot, too. My hearing has gone to shit, but I also think a lot of directors allow too much mumbling from their actors.

I blame the overtly loud sound and music tracks droning out the speech. I have no real problem focusing on the dialogue in 90’s and earlier movies even with my tinnitus. Movies from the 00’s on it seems like someone told every studio to make everything louder because it’s what the people want.

 

[Magua]

I have subtitles on everything I watch. It started after I couldn’t understand a thing that was said in a certain Irish mafia show on Netflix that I bailed on midway thru the first episode and then realized it was my hearing sucking and not their mangled ass English.

Mom?!

I'm mostly just being mischievous - I don't like dubs at all. One of the reasons I go to anime in the first place is to get the f*** away from Western culture. It's just a matter of preference.

I already know this is because Michael Keaton dubbed Porco Rosso. I’m onto you, sir.

 

[mja]

We have captions on at all times for my wife. She speaks English better than I do, quite frankly, but it's still her second language so she misses stuff, particularly if there are heavy accents she's not used to, etc. I've become used to it, and now also prefer having captions on.

As for dubbing vs. not dubbing: yes, huge not dubbing fan for live action stuff. The actor deserves to have their performance stand, and the art is just better for it. It's less of an issue with animated films, but I feel there's still something to be said for the original performance.

Also, subtitles, while my strong preference, are almost always flawed. Sometimes it's unavoidable--i.e. untranslatable idioms, etc., but other times it seems really random or unnecessary.

 

[Lord Defect]

We have captions on at all times for my wife. She speaks English better than I do, quite frankly, but it's still her second language so she misses stuff, particularly if there are heavy accents she's not used to, etc. I've become used to it, and now also prefer having captions on.

As for dubbing vs. not dubbing: yes, huge not dubbing fan for live action stuff. The actor deserves to have their performance stand, and the art is just better for it. It's less of an issue with animated films, but I feel there's still something to be said for the original performance.

Also, subtitles, while my strong preference, are almost always flawed. Sometimes it's unavoidable--i.e. untranslatable idioms, etc., but other times it seems really random or unnecessary.

It goes right up my asshole when the dub and the sub don’t match up. The Russian show “to the lake” and the German Netflix shows are like this. I can’t watch it if it’s like that.

 

[pit]

Also, subtitles, while my strong preference, are almost always flawed. Sometimes it's unavoidable--i.e. untranslatable idioms, etc., but other times it seems really random or unnecessary.

The pacing of the subs have to be done really well too. When the speed of my reading puts me ahead of the action of the conversation and turns the subs into spoilers, it really can deflate the narrative tension.

 

[Lord Defect]

The pacing of the subs have to be done really well too. When the speed of my reading puts me ahead of the action of the conversation and turns the subs into spoilers, it really can deflate the narrative tension.

That’s the worst. I find I have to read half. Stop. Then read the second half.
It’s like catching a glimpse of the last page of a novel constantly.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

@Surrounded By Ahos

We’re gonna get some celebrity picks going on here with our Official Team Poster, Surrounded By Ahos set to make our make up picks.

I have no idea how many I have at this point so let’s just say pick all of these categories that aren’t filled yet. Draft order be damned.

 

[Lord Defect]

@Surrounded By Ahos

We’re gonna get some celebrity picks going on here with our Official Team Poster, Surrounded By Ahos set to make our make up picks.

I have no idea how many I have at this point so let’s just say pick all of these categories that aren’t filled yet. Draft order be damned.

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Aka I can’t be bothered so draft for me peon.

Can you post my list like you did yours? Maybe he’ll knock mine out while he’s at it if I confuse him enough.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Aka I can’t be bothered so draft for me peon.

Can you post my list like you did yours? Maybe he’ll knock mine out while he’s at it if I confuse him enough.

Surrounded By Ahos is not a peon. He’s a proud member of the Desert Ducks and you will be hearing from our lawyer (Vincent LaGuardia Gambini).

 

[Beef Invictus]

Subtitles aren’t even fully accurate necessarily, so one could be purist to the point of saying reading English subtitles also cheapens the work. I didn’t read Dante’s Inferno in medieval Italian either.

Kiki’s Delivery Service takes place in Sweden anyway, so the Japanese isn’t even contextual. It simply comes down to quality of animated dubs, and no animated films are dubbed (again, they are technically all dubbed) to the quality of Ghibli. I have seen Ghibli dubbed and subbed, and it’s only a matter of preference.

I was bored one week a few years back and decided I'd translate Inferno from the original Italian, for fun. Translation is mostly plug and chug when written, you've got all the time you need to figure out words, right?

No.

No, do not try this. Don't try figuring out Venetian, either. Also do not try Southern Italian pre-unification either.

I thought Spanish in the Americas was annoying with regional differences. Italian up through 1900ish is a complete debacle. It wasn't anywhere near as fun as I thought. It reads like everyone hated their neighbors so much that they deliberately made their local languages incomprehensible out of spite.

I also ran into this doing ancestry stuff during COVID. Trying to figure out a record relating to an ancestor. It said that he was jailed (Maybe?) briefly for doing murder in a baby-prison. Now, it kind of seemed this meant he wandered into an orphanage and killed a kid, but the entire tenor around it was that he paid some fine and it was no big deal and there was no need for a trial. So either amusing yourself by killing orphans was wholly legal down in Calabria, or there was some kind of dialect-specific thing going on that wasn't surviving modern literal translation. I gave up and sent that document to an Italian-fluent friend who'd lived in Rome for years and he told me it read like gibberish in modern Italian.

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

@Surrounded By Ahos

We’re gonna get some celebrity picks going on here with our Official Team Poster, Surrounded By Ahos set to make our make up picks.

I have no idea how many I have at this point so let’s just say pick all of these categories that aren’t filled yet. Draft order be damned.

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Having sought counsel and wisdom from the wind and the stones, the Las Vegas Desert Ducks are pleased to make the following selections:

Card Game: Hearts

Ghost/Haunted House/Area: Charleston, South Carolina

Knight of the Round Table: Hector de Maris

Local Icon: Cherie Berry, the lady who managed to get her face on every single elevator in the state of North Carolina

Movie/TV Villain: Captain Vidal from Pan's Labyrinth

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

So it is written, so it shall be. If these are duplicates, please send a letter to our attorney and he will deal with it in a timely matter.

 

[Lord Defect]

So it is written, so it shall be. If these are duplicates, please send a letter to our attorney and he will deal with it in a timely matter.

I really hope Cheri Berry is a dupe.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Firm reminder that it's insane that Spain gets a pass for all their history these days. When I'm in charge they'll pay.

 

[Lord Defect]

Firm reminder that it's insane that Spain gets a pass for all their history these days. When I'm in charge they'll pay.

This feels random, even for you

 

[Surrounded By Ahos]

This feels random, even for you

I mean, they were a little bit fascist for like 40 years and it’s not really talked about.

And any Monty python fan could talk your ear off about the Spanish Inquisition.

 

[DancingPanther]

f***ing love Pans Labyrinth

 

[Lord Defect]

I mean, they were a little bit fascist for like 40 years and it’s not really talked about.

And any Monty python fan could talk your ear off about the Spanish Inquisition.

Oh wait. Captain Vidal is from Spain isn’t he. There’s the connection. Never seen pans labyrinth.