Indeed what could be more important than seeing Connor McDavid play against his own country? What fan hasn't dreamt of such a sight?Thank goodness it's finally going to happen!
just because someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's meaningless.
NHL may bar Slava Voynov from competing for Russia in World Cup (UPD: Voynov Banned)
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just because someone doesn't like it, doesn't mean it's meaningless.
What are you talking about? McDavid is a passionate citizen of Younggunistan and will play his heart out for his country against their rival Canada.Indeed what could be more important than seeing Connor McDavid play against his own country? What fan hasn't dreamt of such a sight?
EDIT: To more meaningfully contribute, I'm on the "Russia should withdraw" train, not to defend Voynov at all but just because a partial national league dictating who your international side can send and not send is a total farce. Never really understood why Russia contributed in the first place, given that it helps out a direct competitor to their own KHL. Seems like it's always been a lose-lose to me.
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When players are made to compete against their own country at an "international" event then it's as meaningless as a hockey tournament could possibly be.
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Well he should! Would look bad if he somehow failed to show up in Team Younggunistan if they face Canada in the semis, and then before the next WC it would turn out that he has somehow obtained Canadian WC hockey citizenship and will be defending the Canadian WC victory of 2016. The other guys in the Finale game and especially their fans would gonna be tedious if they had to really grind through their semi.
Younggunistan sounds like something out of Lovecraft books anyway, and the black villain uniform with blood-red runes really isn't helping.
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It's sounds like a country the United States might invade sooner or later.
Wait... in a sense, they already did.
mattihp
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Yeah, I am sure that both Russian fans that travel to Canada for this tournament will be treated like kings!
I agree 100%. NHL has no business banning a player from an invitational tournament.I don't think he would (or should) be let into the country. (People have been denied entry for lesser crimes.) But the NHL should not ban a foreign player, playing in a foreign league, for once having violated a morality clause in an NHL contract.
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from an article that appeared on TASS and has since been picked up by several other sports websites.
http://tass.ru/sport/3347584
The opening of the article in Russian: Федерация хоккея России (ФХР) не планирует заменять Вячеслава Войнова в национальной сборной и рассчитывает на участие игрока на Кубке мира. Об этом ТАСС сообщил первый вице-президент ФХР Роман Ротенберг.
Translation: The Russian Hockey Federation does not plan on replacing Slava Voynov on the National Team and is counting on the player participating at the World Cup. This was communicated to TASS by the VP of the Russian Hockey Federation, Roman Rothenburg.
Sounds like the Russians are holding their ground. Good to see.
Hopefully they'll pull out all together. There is no reason for the KHL to send its stars to the NHL Cash Grab Cup.
Hopefully they'll pull out all together. There is no reason for the KHL to send its stars to the NHL Cash Grab Cup.
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Again -- it's very sad (or pathetic, or laughable) that a player is kept out of the WC (or of any international tournament) due to an indefinite suspension from a national (or bi-national, whatever) league, as opposed to a "choice" of the NT to actually suspend the player.
Still, the Russian hockey Fed might do whatever it want... if Voynov is inadmissible to Canada, then he should not be able to enter Canada. I like hockey, but I like even more the idea that my country applies its laws in a fair manner.
Still, the Russian hockey Fed might do whatever it want... if Voynov is inadmissible to Canada, then he should not be able to enter Canada. I like hockey, but I like even more the idea that my country applies its laws in a fair manner.
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I understand that they very recently announced that they won't be pausing KHL for the tournament's duration.
edit: no, wait, that seems to have been the situation for a half a year now.
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I agree. Russia should be able to name whomever they want to their national team for the World Cup. At the same time, however, Canada Customs should follow their standard procedures when deciding if a someone like Voynov with a criminal record should be allowed entry into the country. It does not matter if he is traveling to attend the World Cup.
The NHL is running the tournament so why shouldn't they decide who is suspended or not?
Was it ridiculous that Griffin Reinhart was kept out of WJHC games because of his moronic IIHF suspension the year before?
At least in the Voynov case the suspension is warranted. Reinhart's suspension was a joke but Canada had to honor it because it was a IIHF suspension and they were playing in an IIHF tournament.
If he has a criminal record in another country then yes Canadian Customs will take a look at that record, determine what the applicable crime is in Canada and then make a judgement on whether that individual should be allowed into the country.
And before clueless people start up with the "Canada should just join the States then" this is the same as if he was charged in US, Finland, Russia etc.
MXD
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I know much more about Immigration Law than about Customs Law.
Those law areas are related, so...
From what I gather, he'd be inadmissible on the grounds of serious criminality due to having commited, on the the balance of probabilities, an act which, if committed in Canada, would have incured a maximum sentence of 10 yrs or more.
This isn't what he was convicted of in the US, and if it was only of his conviction, he could probably get in.
Who cares?
The NHL has every right to set its suspension lengths. If Voynov feels it is too long he can appeal.
Otherwise he is under suspension by the NHL and there is zero reason for them to ignore that suspension.
Again for all the whiners out there should the IIHF ignore their suspensions for IHHF tournaments because Canada wants their guys to play?
mattihp
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Official tournaments according to who the IIHF?
And who cares about World Rankings? Especially if they are determined by teams with Sam Reinhart, Max Domi and Ben Hutton on them instead of Sidney Crosby, Jonathon Toews and Carey Price.
The WHC is just as much an exhibition tournament as the World Cup is. At least at the World Cup we get to see the top talent playing not the b or c list teams from the World Championships.
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The IIHF recognized Todd Bertuzzi's NHL suspension in 2004, but not Gary Suter's in 1998. Gary Suter's actions in the 1987 Canada Cup earned him a suspension from both the NHL and the IIHF.
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