NHL Hockey Hall of Very Good

[kilowatt]

Looking at the Kings, I think Dustin Brown is a pretty interesting case. Kopitar and Doughty are almost certainly locks, Jonathan Quick I’m not sure, and Brown is probably not deserving. On pure stats alone, he doesn’t get in: 1,183 games played, 299 goals, 354 assists. But he’s also a two-time Stanley Cup-winning captain, the first American to do so, and he led the playoffs in scoring in 2012 (though he did not win the Conn Smythe). Is he a hall of famer? Probably not. Do his extra-curriculars elevate him to the Hall of Very Good? I don’t know.

 

[Oddbob]

Primeau and Samuelsson are Hall of Good material...

Ulf is nowhere near good enough for the Hall of Fame, unless it is for being a dirty son of a gun.

 

[Oddbob]

Kipper. Thomas. Teppo numminen. Fuhr. Felix potvin.

Fuhr was overrated but he is indeed in the actual HOF.

Theo Fleury makes this currently, but he should be in the actual HOF. 5'6" player that performed like he did when super small guys doing really well was not common and very dangerous considering how rough it was back then.

 

[Giotrapani91]

Bunch of Oilers who I believe are in the the Hall of Very Good (and should stay there):

Doug Weight (1000 points a cup with a couple top 10 scoring finishes)
Bill Ranford (Conne Smyth)
Esa Tikkanen (Grate One)
Ryan Smyth (Captain Canada)
Curtis Joseph (Cujo)
Vince Damphousse (1200 points)
Bernie Nicholls (70 goal/150 point season, 1200 points career)
Andy Moog
Tim Thomas

Honorable Mentions:
Charlie Huddy
Miro Satan

I could see weight making the hall eventually he’s borderline imo, he was an amazing playmaker in Edmonton & St. Louis.

 

[Giotrapani91]

Bunch of Oilers who I believe are in the the Hall of Very Good (and should stay there):

Doug Weight (1000 points a cup with a couple top 10 scoring finishes)
Bill Ranford (Conne Smyth)
Esa Tikkanen (Grate One)
Ryan Smyth (Captain Canada)
Curtis Joseph (Cujo)
Vince Damphousse (1200 points)
Bernie Nicholls (70 goal/150 point season, 1200 points career)
Andy Moog
Tim Thomas

Honorable Mentions:
Charlie Huddy
Miro Satan

CUJO will eventually make it I mean look how long it took Doug Wilson & Kevin Lowe to make it in, damphousse would be in had he not’ve gotten arrested years ago, Bernie Nicholls might make it eventually. There’s a couple years where there’s no first ballot guys.

 

[Giotrapani91]

Jere Lehtinen
Steve Larmer
Teppo Numminen

With carbonneau in now I wouldn’t be surprised if Lehtinen makes it eventually.

 

[Giotrapani91]

for Hall of Very good i think this qualifies

NHL Totals

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431

638

1069

1589

[TFOOT] [/TFOOT]

also a member of one of the GREAT lines of all times , 21 year career ( actually drags his PPG down )

Bill Masterton Trophy

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

King Clancy Memorial Trophy

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

long shot to even make the NHL being such a late draft choice - round 15 #210 overall ( played the most games out of his draft class and the most points ( 2nd most games was 977 with 701 and 2nd most points 878 in 888 games )

draft year stats

Total drafted players to play in NHL: 86
Percent of players to play in NHL: 39.6
Average NHL Career Games: 264
Average NHL Career Goals: 44
Average NHL Career Points: 124
Average NHL Career PIM: 291

Dave Taylor wouldn’t be a bad addition to the hall of fame imo.

 

[amnesiac]

Alexei Kovalev
Mike Richter
Sergei Zubov
Sergei Gonchar
Tony Amonte
Theo Fleury
Adam Graves

just got in

 

[iamjs]

His problem is he started his career too late and found a way to finish it early.
His 2010-11 season might be the greatest for a goalie in history.

Finish it early? He retired when he was 40 and his numbers weren't exactly impressive in his last season.

 

[sabremike]

Two of my all time childhood heroes:

Kevin Dineen

Sean Burke

#LLTW

 

[njdevils1982]

Two of my all time childhood heroes:

Kevin Dineen

Sean Burke

#LLTW

where's the verbeek love man

 

[sabremike]

where's the verbeek love man

He despised that boil on the ass of humanity and hockey Karmanos so yeah, big oversight on my part.

 

[Elvs]

Zach Parise

 

[KasperTheGrittyGhost]

Ray Sheppard, Marty Lapointe, Brian Rafalski, Hank Zetterberg, and Nick Kronwall are all good examples that jumped to mind

 

[Name Nameless]

Marleau, Hossa, MAF IMO

People keep on suggesting Hossa, he is already in the HHOF.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Roenick isn't in the HHOF yet...he should be though, what a joke. Mogilny too, along with a few others...(Roenick, Alfredsson, Turgeon (yeah, so what he didn't fight in '87 WJC?...so he wouldn't get kicked out of the tournament), Verbeek, Larmer, Theo Fleury, Mogilny, Bondra, Tkachuk, Hossa, Cujo, Boris Mikhailov, Doug Wilson, Brind'amour, Elias)

Current example of HHOF bias:
Alexander Mogilny
Eligibility: 12th year
If Paul Kariya (Class of 2017) is in the Hall of Fame, it stands to reason Mogilny should be too. Mogilny played 990 NHL games, one more than Kariya, and had 71 more goals (473-402) and 43 more points (1,032-989). Mogilny won the Stanley Cup with the Devils in 2000 while Kariya never won the Cup. They each won gold medals at the Olympics (Mogilny with the Soviet Union in 1988, Kariya with Canada in 2002), the World Championship (Mogilny 1989, Kariya 1994) and the World Junior Championship (Mogilny 1989, Kariya 1993).

 

[Maplebeasts]

Kevin Stevens I think is a good pick here.

 

[Evergreen]

Realistically this is where Housley, Ciccarelli, Lowe, Nieuwendyk, and Andreychuk should be.

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

Ray Sheppard, Marty Lapointe, Brian Rafalski, Hank Zetterberg, and Nick Kronwall are all good examples that jumped to mind

Zetterberg will go in, he was a better player than some of the guys they have put in recently. A part of this is a popularity contest too and he will be popular in the room that votes on this. I have zero worries that he gets left out of the HHOF.

 

[Regal]

Roenick isn't in the HHOF yet...he should be though, what a joke. Mogilny too, along with a few others...(Roenick, Alfredsson, Turgeon (yeah, so what he didn't fight in '87 WJC?...so he wouldn't get kicked out of the tournament), Verbeek, Larmer, Theo Fleury, Mogilny, Bondra, Tkachuk, Hossa, Cujo, Boris Mikhailov, Doug Wilson, Brind'amour, Elias)

Current example of HHOF bias:
Alexander Mogilny
Eligibility: 12th year
If Paul Kariya (Class of 2017) is in the Hall of Fame, it stands to reason Mogilny should be too. Mogilny played 990 NHL games, one more than Kariya, and had 71 more goals (473-402) and 43 more points (1,032-989). Mogilny won the Stanley Cup with the Devils in 2000 while Kariya never won the Cup. They each won gold medals at the Olympics (Mogilny with the Soviet Union in 1988, Kariya with Canada in 2002), the World Championship (Mogilny 1989, Kariya 1994) and the World Junior Championship (Mogilny 1989, Kariya 1993).

Mogilny never had a run of consistent elite play like Kariya from 95-96 to 99-00 though, where Kariya was widely considered a top 5-6 forward. He was 6th in points and 4th in points per game over those 5 years.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Mogilny never had a run of consistent elite play like Kariya from 95-96 to 99-00 though, where Kariya was widely considered a top 5-6 forward. He was 6th in points and 4th in points per game over those 5 years.

95-95 through 99-00, Mogilny 308 pts in 279gp...Those are over PPG All-Star #'s in the Dead Puck Era. It didn't help that he played on a small/medium sized market, non-playoff VAN squad, except 6 PO gp in 95-96.

 

[iamjs]

People keep on suggesting Hossa, he is already in the HHOF.

a lot of those suggestions were from before his induction. This thread goes back as far as January 2017.

 

[qqaz]

a lot of those suggestions were from before his induction. This thread goes back as far as January 2017.

Yep. I just liked about 30 posts that were from 3 years ago.

I'd also like to nominate Martin Havlat and Nik Khabibulin.

 

[Voight]

where's the verbeek love man

I somehow still get shocked every time I see that he has 500 goals.

 

[Rebels57]

Flyers Hall of Very Good

Rick MacLeish
Brian Propp
Tim Kerr
Ron Hextall
John LeClair
Eric Desjardins
Kimmo Timonen
Jeremy Roenick
Danny Briere
Rod Brind'Amour