Melvin
21/12/05
Here comes the 4th that we traded to Chicago for Bowey and a 5th.
All these stupid little trades. I didn't even remember that one.
All these stupid little trades. I didn't even remember that one.
GDT: NHL Entry Draft | Day 2
- Thread starter Mr. Canucklehead
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BenningHurtsMySoul
Unfair Huggy Bear
off the top of my head
in terms of promoting high end f/d/g over same time(not the current prospects with "potential"):
better than: cal, , sj, arz, buf, wpg, edm, nsh, stl, pits, wsh, la, det, vegas, *(obv bit different with them joining same year boeser played 1st season but they had a large amount of picks)
equalish: dal, chi, ana, tor, fla
worse than: tb, carolina, nyr,
We had to waste a pick to get a defender to expose because they stupidly didn’t want to expose Tyler Myers and his terrible contract that would never have been selected.
Melvin
21/12/05
Exposure requirements for Seattle? I don't even know.
Will be frustrating if Stankoven is still available at that spot.
Hansen
tyler motte simp
Its just absolutely insane to throw away this many picks, cup contenders dont even do this let alone non playoff teams.
Its not even like we blew the odd pick, we literally have next to no picks the past few seasons, its insanity this gm and owner are still treating this organization like a complete game, wanting there toys right now.
Bitz and Bites
Registered User
The Vasili Jerry
Serenity now!
BenningHurtsMySoul
Unfair Huggy Bear
When was the last time a team only had one pick in the first four rounds after a bottom ten finish? Has that even happened before. I feel like this kind of thing is more exceptional than being stated.
Melvin
21/12/05
And what are the 8 "high end" players the Canucks promoted? You're already counting Pod as "high end" before he plays a single game? If so, you have to do the same for those other teams that have a likely addition for next year.
For the Canucks it's Hoglander, Hughes, Pettersson, Demko...? who else in the past 4 years + next year?
BenningHurtsMySoul
Unfair Huggy Bear
Melvin
21/12/05
People still act like Boeser is a super young guy even though we’ve already burned 5 of his 7 team controlled years.
John Belushi
Registered Boozer
Melvin
21/12/05
The Vasili Jerry
Serenity now!
This lack of picks comes directly from mismanagement of assets. It's little things. For example, not moving players in their last seasons at the deadline when you're obviously not winning a cup and they won't be re-signing. You can go back through all the years even to Hamhuis. It all adds up.
And jim must think were clueless because every year he says after he trades our picks "I am going to try to recoup picks" which literally every team seems to do if they want without issue. I would have more respect if he wouldnt lie about it and think were dumb.
So I was replying to a person and said if they are considering podz and rathbone as roster players id consider it 8(should be 7, 8 was from a comment with someone else over something else, sorry). If you dont consider them you have Boeser in 17-18, pettersson in 18-19, Hughes 19-20. Demko+ Hoglander(who eclipsed what i thought would be a 3rd liner) in 20-21. Thats a 1c, top pairing d, 1w, 2w, and a high end 1g. I havent seen many teams be able to promote that many high end players in the last 5 years.
Thats all im trying to point out as to why our depth doesnt look good. While agreeing it should be better
It is not strange how few have made an impact. You just gave no context of what other teams have done in the same time period. Demko, McCann, Virtanen, Forsling, Tryamkin, Boeser, Gaudette, OJ, Lockwood, Petterson, Rathbone, Hughes, Podz, and Hoglander. Some of those are playing for other teams or are not in league yet full time. However all are legit nhl talents there is more than 5 nhl players on this list. There was 5 nhl talents in 2014 draft alone. I am all aboard the mismanagement train but the draft and lack of picks is low on that list. Getting Miller, Toffoli, Schmidt, OEL and Garland for picks is not a bad thing. Signing multiple crap FA's is what hurt this team. Take a look at other teams draft history from 2014 to now and compare. Very few teams come out ahead. They all have made multiple mistakes. It is a false narrative that good teams have killed it drafting relative to the Canucks since 2014. Now 2007 to 2013 is a different beast that is still hurting this team, these last two drafts may hurt the Canucks like those drafts in a few years but it is not what caused these recent teams to lose.
And every year we are told it is no big deal, ran out of time, can't just manufacture trades, wait until next year, blah blah blah. It isn't a one-off. It's a trend.
