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KingPuckChoo said:
Podkolzin has stated he wants to stay in Russia until he’s ready to play in the NHL. He has made it clear he doesn’t want to play in the CHL but he may not be crossing the pond to play in the AHL either. Some people could get scared by those comments but I’m not really concerned. He has two years remaining on his contract with SKA, and I believe he’s ready to jump straight to the NHL after that contract is over. Anyone drafting him should be prepared to wait two years before seeing him in the NHL. Perhaps that pushes him down a few spots on draft boards but there are no guarantees the other prospects in the same range are ready to play in the NHL sooner than that.

If Podkolzin is NHL ready at age 20 – as I suspect he will be – but refuses to cross the pond at that point, then I’m starting to get worried. But I’ll cross that bridge if I have to. Top prospects like him don’t usually stay in Russia no matter how much money rich teams like SKA throw at them. They want to play in the NHL, so they usually get there at some point


doesn't it sound VERY risky though?
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it depends who is left on the board; if he is that much better than players behind him than hell yes he is worth it
 
BigKing said:
If Hoven is correct and it is the actual plan, it relies on these guys thinking they were nabbing Hughes/Kakko and that Vilardi is a real thing.

Definitely relies on Kopitar and Doughty still, not so much Carter and Quick. I think that some of the bad contracts are gone by that 3rd year so they might possibly be in a position to sign a UFA or make a trade.

I get it that you have to have goals, but it seems unlikely.
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yeah i'm not buying

too many "well, if ____"s
 
Time to look at the bright side. The Ducks didn’t get a top 2 pick, and the top 2 went to the east coast. Chicago getting three is irrelevant. The players that will likely be available after Hughes and Kakko could fall anywhere in the 3-5 range. Also, time will tell if Hughes and Kakko were the best from draft. 2017 is perfect example. I would take Elias Petterson over Patrick or Nico.
 
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Never send Luc to a lottery again...EVER!
I guess the hockey gods had one more nut shot in them with the Kings.
The Hawks found a way into the top 3 by moving up 9 spots and for the 2nd time, they jumped over the Kings in the lotto and are getting a better player. The hockey universe can kiss my ass!
 
TopT said:
it depends who is left on the board; if he is that much better than players behind him than hell yes he is worth it
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At 5 the player available outweighs the risk of drafting this guy, you cannot whiff on this pick.
 
Finish 2nd to last, and the consolation price is a 50-60 point top-sixer. Nut shot. Hockey gods still taking payment for 2014 I guess.
 
Just fire Luc Robitaille already. Nothing good is going to happen for the Kings with this guy in charge.
 
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I don’t think the Leafs can get past their mental block with the Bruins, so the Kings will pick #5, #20-22, and #33.

That’s a big opportunity to hit some home runs. If they get two NHL players out of those three picks, that will be a fantastic draft.

I personally think Chicago will take Podkolzin at #3. He’s too good to pass up and they can afford to gamble a bit with that puck considering their prospect pool at the moment.

The Ottawa (Colorado) pick is the real head scratcher. I don’t think Byram is good enough to pass over the other forwards available. But at the same time, a blue chip D prospect like Byram is exactly what they’re looking for right now.

Tough draft to figure out. The top nine will all likely be good NHL players, but after Hughes/Kakko you can make an argument for basically anyone at any draft position.

Ultimately, I would love for the Kings to draft Turcotte/Byram at #5. If Podzolkin is available at #5, I think you have to take a chance on him. Who was the last highly rated top three Russian pick to completely snub the NHL? The Kings would likely let him play out his two years in the KHL - which will be better development than juniors or even the AHL, in my opinion - and immediately sign him to a one way ELC starting in 21/22. He’s just too good. If he’s available at #5, you take him.

I would love for Broberg or Kayilev to drop to the Toronto pick. Either of those players would be huge steals. But I think both will be gone sometime in the mid-teens. The Kings may be able to trade up there.

Anyway, Podkolzin, Byram, Turcotte. We should draft one of those three at #5. Dach/Cozens/Zegras are good, too. I’m open for convincing on any of those players at #5, as well. But Pod/Turc/Byram are my personal preference.
 
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Raccoon Jesus said:
Yeah, not at all saying it won't help, but enduring the year we had to endure to land a Brayden Schenn instead of a high-end 1C is just the hockey gods pouring it on.
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Yep. #5 was the worst possible outcome for the Kings.

According to Tankathon, the Hawks had a 3% chance of moving up to #3.

It’s beautiful when you think about it, really.
 
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Just think, if we had won a few more games we'd have finishing where NJ was and then got the top pick. So much for tanking. And how the F are 2 original 6 teams in the final 3, and can someone explain how chicago moved from 12 to 3?!
 
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SettlementRichie10 said:
I don’t think the Leafs can get past their mental block with the Bruins, so the Kings will pick #5, #20-22, and #33.

That’s a big opportunity to hit some home runs. If they get two NHL players out of those three picks, that will be a fantastic draft.

I personally think Chicago will take Podkolzin at #3. He’s too good to pass up and they can afford to gamble a bit with that puck considering their prospect pool at the moment.

The Ottawa (Colorado) pick is the real head scratcher. I don’t think Byram is good enough to pass over the other forwards available. But at the same time, a blue chip D prospect like Byram is exactly what they’re looking for right now.

Tough draft to figure out. The top nine will all likely be good NHL players, but after Hughes/Kakko you can make an argument for basically anyone at any draft position.

Ultimately, I would love for the Kings to draft Turcotte/Byram at #5. If Podzolkin is available at #5, I think you have to take a chance on him. Who was the last highly rated top three Russian pick to completely snub the NHL? The Kings would likely let him play out his two years in the KHL - which will be better development than juniors or even the AHL, in my opinion - and immediately sign him to a one way ELC starting in 21/22. He’s just too good. If he’s available at #5, you take him.

I would love for Broberg or Kayilev to drop to the Toronto pick. Either of those players would be huge steals. But I think both will be gone sometime in the mid-teens. The Kings may be able to trade up there.

Anyway, Podkolzin, Byram, Turcotte. We should draft one of those three at #5. Dach/Cozens/Zegras are good, too. I’m open for convincing on any of those players at #5, as well. But Pod/Turc/Byram are my personal preference.
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I think Colorado has it good. They can pick Byram and pair him with Makar for all eternity, or they can pick any of the other guys who project as low-end 1Cs/2Cs anyway, as guys like Turcotte are lauded for two-way game.

Our pick is a toughie because the field of players is all basically a crapshoot.
 
SettlementRichie10 said:
I don’t think the Leafs can get past their mental block with the Bruins, so the Kings will pick #5, #20-22, and #33.

That’s a big opportunity to hit some home runs. If they get two NHL players out of those three picks, that will be a fantastic draft.

I personally think Chicago will take Podkolzin at #3. He’s too good to pass up and they can afford to gamble a bit with that puck considering their prospect pool at the moment.

The Ottawa (Colorado) pick is the real head scratcher. I don’t think Byram is good enough to pass over the other forwards available. But at the same time, a blue chip D prospect like Byram is exactly what they’re looking for right now.

Tough draft to figure out. The top nine will all likely be good NHL players, but after Hughes/Kakko you can make an argument for basically anyone at any draft position.

Ultimately, I would love for the Kings to draft Turcotte/Byram at #5. If Podzolkin is available at #5, I think you have to take a chance on him. Who was the last highly rated top three Russian pick to completely snub the NHL? The Kings would likely let him play out his two years in the KHL - which will be better development than juniors or even the AHL, in my opinion - and immediately sign him to a one way ELC starting in 21/22. He’s just too good. If he’s available at #5, you take him.

I would love for Broberg or Kayilev to drop to the Toronto pick. Either of those players would be huge steals. But I think both will be gone sometime in the mid-teens. The Kings may be able to trade up there.

Anyway, Podkolzin, Byram, Turcotte. We should draft one of those three at #5. Dach/Cozens/Zegras are good, too. I’m open for convincing on any of those players at #5, as well. But Pod/Turc/Byram are my personal preference.
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i might be wrong but i think Podkolzin would still need a 3 yr elc.
 
SettlementRichie10 said:
I don’t think the Leafs can get past their mental block with the Bruins, so the Kings will pick #5, #20-22, and #33.

That’s a big opportunity to hit some home runs. If they get two NHL players out of those three picks, that will be a fantastic draft.

I personally think Chicago will take Podkolzin at #3. He’s too good to pass up and they can afford to gamble a bit with that puck considering their prospect pool at the moment.

The Ottawa (Colorado) pick is the real head scratcher. I don’t think Byram is good enough to pass over the other forwards available. But at the same time, a blue chip D prospect like Byram is exactly what they’re looking for right now.

Tough draft to figure out. The top nine will all likely be good NHL players, but after Hughes/Kakko you can make an argument for basically anyone at any draft position.

Ultimately, I would love for the Kings to draft Turcotte/Byram at #5. If Podzolkin is available at #5, I think you have to take a chance on him. Who was the last highly rated top three Russian pick to completely snub the NHL? The Kings would likely let him play out his two years in the KHL - which will be better development than juniors or even the AHL, in my opinion - and immediately sign him to a one way ELC starting in 21/22. He’s just too good. If he’s available at #5, you take him.

I would love for Broberg or Kayilev to drop to the Toronto pick. Either of those players would be huge steals. But I think both will be gone sometime in the mid-teens. The Kings may be able to trade up there.

Anyway, Podkolzin, Byram, Turcotte. We should draft one of those three at #5. Dach/Cozens/Zegras are good, too. I’m open for convincing on any of those players at #5, as well. But Pod/Turc/Byram are my personal preference.
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Agree completely. This organization needs a pure goal-scorer.

Keep him away from this dumpster fire the next 2 years, accumulate a couple of more top 5 picks in 2020 and 2021 and have this kid ready at age 20 to make an impact in the NHL along with the other kids they draft the next 2 years.
 
Master Yoda said:
i might be wrong but i think Podkolzin would still need a 3 yr elc.
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The Kings can sign him after his season in the KHL ends in 2021 to burn a year off it to basically make it a 2 year ELC.

We always hear this about Russians not coming over and 99% of them do. If he’s a star in the NHL he will be making 8 figures. He won’t pass it up.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
I think Colorado has it good. They can pick Byram and pair him with Makar for all eternity, or they can pick any of the other guys who project as low-end 1Cs/2Cs anyway, as guys like Turcotte are lauded for two-way game.

Our pick is a toughie because the field of players is all basically a crapshoot.
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To be fair, I think any pick between #3 - #9 was a crapshoot. Seven good players available there, but sort of indistinguishable from one another as surefire bets.

I always sort of thought it was top two or bust for us. #3 is not much better, IMO.
 
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