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In respectable hockey circles it’s unanimously agreed that Matthews is far superior to McDavid defensively.
Pretty obvious from watching them play.
In respectable hockey circles it’s unanimously agreed that Matthews is far superior to McDavid defensively.
The respectable hockey circles being Toronto Sun or Toronto Start? Or was it the TSN?In respectable hockey circles it’s unanimously agreed that Matthews is far superior to McDavid defensively.
The most thoughtful post of the day. 6ix is actually reasonable this time around.Buddy McDavid doesn’t even know you exist or give a shit about you. Your life literally revolves defending another man online and trashing another.
There’s arguments for both players. Get real.
Matthews nor McDavid are in the category as those players defensively. I don't care how the Campbell-adjusted stats look.Matthews is definitely in the mix with those players. If one doesn’t know how to separate goaltending from the equation them that’s their own ignorance.
It's almost like having to carry around two 4th line players is detrimental to a player's production.
Draisaitl is in on nearly the same percentage of McDavid's points as Marner is on Matthew's points. But they don't play together.Umm... why don't you provide the stats since you are trying to rebuttal.
btw... at the same time look at the amount of PPs handed freely to McDrai compared to Matthews too
Matthews absolutely does.. like I say, peoples ignorance of it is their own problemMatthews nor McDavid are in the category as those players defensively. I don't care how the Campbell-adjusted stats look.
Monahan was a 4th line caliber player the last 2 years. Literally healthy scratch worthy.Seruiosuly have you even looked up his leinemates from last year to this year?
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Sure Monahan has regressed a ton due to injuries but Johnny was crap for most of the time since his 99 point season.
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I mean, if you want to go there, it's your claim, prove it.Matthews absolutely does.. like I say, peoples ignorance of it is their own problem
What an insane season by Johnny. +63... that's nuttyMeanwhile Gaudreau helps set up the last second tying goal and GWG.
113 points
88 ES points (most in 26 years)
+63 (highest in 36 years)
Best Hart race in years.
Monahan was a 4th line caliber player the last 2 years. Literally healthy scratch worthy.
So maybe having to carry around him + Ritchie / Leivo / Simon for the first 40 games of the season wasn't great.
27 points in those first 40 games, then 22 in the final 16 once he got away from Monahan.
Anybody with functioning eyeballs knows that Monahan was holding him back.
Who said they weren't? They're both legitimate first line players.Anyone with functioning eyeballs would also know that Tkachuk and Lindholm are excellent players, nevermind Hanifin and Andersson who just happen to play alot with that top line.
McDavid is winning the Hart this year or AM, it is what it is.
Who said they weren't? They're both legitimate first line players.
That winger was never close to sniffing 40 goals in a season and has a career high of 30 goals and 50-something points before playing with McDavid. I wonder why that is
Matthews is 40th in assists
McDavid is 7th in goals
"Best player in the game" should be top 10 in both at least no?
Far less??I think the point is that McDavid is producing far more with far less.
Even AM is overall as well.
Why do we keep talking about last year?Far less??
Evander Kane outscored both of Gaudreau's linemates last year.
Draisaitl and RNH on the PP (and often at ES) which he plays almost the entire period.
And Matthews has Marner and Bunting + Nylander and Tavares on the PP.
I'll predict another 2-3 more until Bedard takes over as the best player on the planet.To be the only player since Gretzky to win 4 Art Ross trophies by age 25.
4 Art Ross trophies is pretty mindblowing for someone that age.
Where does it stop ? 6 ? 7 ? 8 !